Guild Wars 2

Just a bunch of numbers I ran regarding phantasm hp. Helpful for anyone who wants to check them quickly.

Prior to the patch
Normal phantasm base hp: 2080
With trait + SoIll: 6656
Defender base hp: 5400
With trait + SoIll: 17280

Changes in PvE (assuming increasing by 270% equates to a modifier of x3.7)
Base hp: 7696
With trait + SoIll: 13083
Defender base: 19980
With trait +SoIll: 33900

Changes in PvP and WvW (assuming increasing by 55% equates to a modifier of 1.55)
Base hp: 3224
With trait + SoIll: 5480
Defender base: 8370
With trait + SoIll: 14229

Hmm…not that much of a difference in PvP. Good!

Pyroatheist.9031:

Just a bunch of numbers I ran regarding phantasm hp. Helpful for anyone who wants to check them quickly.

Prior to the patch
Normal phantasm base hp: 2080
With trait + SoIll: 6656
Defender base hp: 5400
With trait + SoIll: 17280

Changes in PvE (assuming increasing by 270% equates to a modifier of x3.7)
Base hp: 7696
With trait + SoIll: 13083
Defender base: 19980
With trait +SoIll: 33900

Changes in PvP and WvW (assuming increasing by 55% equates to a modifier of 1.55)
Base hp: 3410
With trait + SoIll: 5797
Defender base: 8370
With trait + SoIll: 14229

How did you get to 3410 for WvW base HP? Wouldn’t the math be 2080*1.55?

That in turn would make the WvW/pvp portion:

Base hp: 3224
With trait + SoIll: 5481

That’s ends up being about a 20% nerf to phantasm hp in wvw/pvp.

(Of course with the SoIll passive fix, it doesn’t seem so bad)

Nice dude, thanks for the numbers. Will use tonight.

At least SOI activates immediately now. I’ll take that over the old version anyday.

@cyrrix: Numbers should now be accurate.

Doesnt SoI only give 50% health bonus now?

At least that is what the tooltip is stating in PVE

Hang on… Phantasm health in PvE got INCREASED? O.o For some reason I read the patch notes and saw it as “decreased”, and I got all sad that my build got nerfed.

Just re-read the patch notes and it DOES say “increased”. I am now a happy Mesmer.

Yet yesterday the SoI was stating 200% health, now it states 50% health

Yeah same. Tooltip in PvE states 50% health….instead of 270%. But having said that, the illusions seems a little tougher. Cannot verify if it is just a ‘typo’ error on the tooltip or not.

pyro are you sure about those numbers? I did some testing after the patch yday and it seemed to me that the base hp was around 5.5k, 8k with SoI, and something like 9k with SoI and trait :o

XRay.1920:

pyro are you sure about those numbers? I did some testing after the patch yday and it seemed to me that the base hp was around 5.5k, 8k with SoI, and something like 9k with SoI and trait :o

I have not tested the post-patch hp. Those numbers are purely off of pre-patch hp + the stated changes.

Ah ok,

phantasms base HP in PVE has risen by 270% and SoI has been decreased to 50%