Resistance: Glamour builds are viable again?

Resistance: Glamour builds are viable again?

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Posted by: Scapper.4236

Scapper.4236

Q:

So theory crafting, theory crafting… Until I stumbled upon the fact that mesmers apparently are the only profession (along with engis) that provide resistance when casting Glamours, the trait reads as follows:

• Temporal Enchanter: Glamour skills last an additional 2 seconds. When you first create any glamour nearby allies within the glamour radius gain 2 seconds of superspeed and 3 seconds of resistance.

Keeping in mind that it is made up of old Temporal Enchanter, while Glamour Mastery has become baseline.

What does this allow?

  • Veil: Super fast engagements in WvW, with immunity to marks put down by necros and other AoE conditions.
  • Null-field: Adds a bonus to the fact that it already cleanses, and provides a possible escape mechanism when retreating or when wanting to turn the fight.
  • Feedback: Useful for point fights, where control is key and incoming stacking conditions could become a negligible interference for said period of time.
  • Time Warp: This is my personal favourite and I think when playing in a downhill situation this will really help level the playing field or even sway it to your team’s advantage.
  • Portal: Sneaky portal engagements which will be harder to counter than before due to superspeed and resistance on BOTH sides of the portal. ~4sec Superspeed ~6sec Resistance.

My only concerns are:

Necros they obviously have Well of Corruption, this can be played around with or baited out. Necromancer traits such as Curses: V (Path Of Corruption), although this is single target it is still an example of how necros can combat boons and conversion. The counterpart of Resistance is chill, which can be chaotic for a zerg and even more so for a mesmer. Important to notice is resistance has a direct connection to it’s counterpart, chill, therefore if converted to a condition can be reverted back to it’s original boon, this can be seen as a bonus as conversions have been standardized.

Of course kittenmesmers, which also have the ability to strip boons quite easily.

Cooldowns, glamours have always had a long cooldown reset even with the baseline it is very underwhelming and this could make it a single round engagement fight which would require your guild to adjust similarly.

Don’t forget Signet of Inspiration

Are they viable again, if not how so? Looking forward to your feedback! (pardon the pun)

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Posted by: Levetty.1279

Levetty.1279

A:

When you first create any glamour nearby allies within the glamour radius

This makes it fairly useless for portal, feedback and veil since you only get the speed/resistance if you are in the glamour when its made and thus probably only effects 5 allies. On portal the buffs will be gone by the time the Mesmer makes the second portal which will be nowhere near you, feedback will most likely be cast at distance but can still be used at close range so its can get the benifit sometimes and veil is a little strip so will be hard for your allies to get the benefit. 2 seconds longer on them will be nice of course but that isn’t GM trait worthy.

The trait is good for null field and time warp but not exactly build defining.

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Posted by: MailMail.6534

MailMail.6534

I’ve always toyed around with a troll-y glamour rezbot build using PU. I haven’t really put much effort into glamours moving forward as I’m unsure how worthwhile Temporal Enchantment would be in a pvp setting. That being said, here’s how that rez bot build would look after today:

http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-R3lZ;1VPVz027JVV71;9;4WUV;0256257048;428lFZ;1Uwl6Uwl69q

eta – Obviously, this build really shines while rezzing teammates. It used to be really good, because you’d have the blind on glamour, the blind from a Prestige (block from PU), the reflects from Medic’s Feedback, then an AOE chaos armor. It’s weird making a build based around your enemies going into downstate in the first place, but hey, if Warriors can do it, why not us too?! haha

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Posted by: Scapper.4236

Scapper.4236

When you first create any glamour nearby allies within the glamour radius

This makes it fairly useless for portal, feedback and veil since you only get the speed/resistance if you are in the glamour when its made and thus probably only effects 5 allies. On portal the buffs will be gone by the time the Mesmer makes the second portal which will be nowhere near you, feedback will most likely be cast at distance but can still be used at close range so its can get the benifit sometimes and veil is a little strip so will be hard for your allies to get the benefit. 2 seconds longer on them will be nice of course but that isn’t GM trait worthy.

The trait is good for null field and time warp but not exactly build defining.

Upon testing I found the sad apparent truth so yes, it isn’t worth it but could have had potential if the mechanic was changed to upon entering the field once.

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Posted by: Sebrent.3625

Sebrent.3625

Don’t forget that Null Field and Feedback can also be used with Leaps (or our own blast) to gain Chaos Armor … which works well with Chaotic Dampening and Staff.

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Posted by: Menaka.5092

Menaka.5092

The trait works very well with Timewarp and Null field and very poorly with Veil and Portal. I didn’t test Feedback.

They should really apply the effect only when going through the Portal/Veil.