Guild Wars 2

Is Restorative Mantra’s + Mender’s Purity + Mantra of Recovery supposed to Remove 2 conditions?

It does trigger condition removal for power return but not when you cast Mantra of Recovery.

Not really concerned about balance, just want to know if it’s a bug or intended.

That’s intended (I think). The charge isn’t actually the healing skill being activated, as the healing skill is power return.

Pyroatheist.9031:

That’s intended (I think). The charge isn’t actually the healing skill being activated, as the healing skill is power return.

The Mantra heals with the trait Restorative Mantras

RM is a separate effect, it doesn’t make charging count as a “heal skill”. Pretty sure it’s intended, although if RM + MP + MoR did make that happen it’d be pretty neat (and really strong!)

Valarauka.2719:

RM is a separate effect, it doesn’t make charging count as a “heal skill”. Pretty sure it’s intended, although if RM + MP + MoR did make that happen it’d be pretty neat (and really strong!)

The tool tip with the above combination says Mantra of Recovery should remove 2 conditions, so I’m wonder if the tooltip is bugged or if the effect is bugged.

Oh, that’s interesting. I hadn’t looked at that, and I’m away from my game comp atm so I can’t look at it. Post it in the bugs forum, let’s find out

Might be better to have a mod just move this thread.

Please?

I’ve often dabbled with mantras and would really like to know if it was intended.

There’s a slight difference between a Healing Skill and A Skill That Heals When Traited : )
Otherwise Restorative Illusions + Mender’s Purity would be a little too powerful. And make the other GM trait useless.

Soulseek.2867:

There’s a slight difference between a Healing Skill and A Skill That Heals When Traited : )
Otherwise Restorative Illusions + Mender’s Purity would be a little too powerful. And make the other GM trait useless.

Is the implication that mantra of resolve isn’t a heal slot skill?

Mantra of Resolve is not a heal slot skill.

But I think you mean Mantra of Recovery. And yes it goes in the healing slot, but its not really a healing skill, since charging it doesn’t actually heal you.

You have to look at it this way. Mantra of Recovery is not a healing skill. BUT when you charge Mantra of Recovery, it changes to “Power Return”. Power Return IS a healing skill.

SO the trait Mender’s Purity only triggers on “Power Resolve” casts and not on the Mantra of Recovery charge.

Restorative Mantras is a trait that “heals” on any mantra “charge”, but the TRAIT is not a healing “SKILL”. So Mender’s Purity does not apply. From the wiki:

Healing skills should not be confused with skills in other skill slots that can heal — only the skills listed below qualify. This is especially true for traits and upgrade components which trigger “on healing,” referring to the use of dedicated healing skill.

Just to apply even more logic to this conversation: Both Superior Runes of the Centaur and Superior Runes of Air state something to the affect of “when you use a healing skill, you gain swiftness”.

Guess what, the swiftness triggers on both the charge of Mantra of Recovery and the Power Resolve casts. (Provided you meet the 10sec cooldown.)

So Mantra of Recovery is and is not a healing skill at the same time.

SlimChance.6593:

Just to apply even more logic to this conversation: Both Superior Runes of the Centaur and Superior Runes of Air state something to the affect of “when you use a healing skill, you gain swiftness”.

Guess what, the swiftness triggers on both the charge of Mantra of Recovery and the Power Resolve casts. (Provided you meet the 10sec cooldown.)

So Mantra of Recovery is and is not a healing skill at the same time.

There are other situations where this is true, for example runes of tormenting proc on both the MoR charge and each power return heal. It’s very inconsistent.

Agreed it is inconsistent and inconsistency isn’t good because it results in shattered expectations.