Restorative Mantras suggestion

Restorative Mantras suggestion

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Posted by: Metallus.7690

Metallus.7690

With the new patch, for the sake of “build diversity”, I decided to try out a build based on interruption and condition removal, hoping something useful could come out of this.

30/20/0/20/0
http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-N;4VPk-1M7BWV71;9;4TJ-J-19A59;239;9;9FW0o
Domination:
- Halting strike: damage on interruption (now deals decent damage)
- Greatsword training: reduced CD on GS skills, especially on Illusionary Wave that knockbacks and interrupts
- Harmonious mantras: 1 more mantra charge
Duelling:
- Protected mantras: 400 toughness while casting is nice
- Deceptive evasion: clone on dodge
Inspiration:
- Mender’s purity: remove a condition when you heal
- Restorative mantras: heal allies when you cast a mantra

Utilities:
- Ether Feast: heals a lot
- Null field: creates and ethereal field that removes conditions
- Mantra of resolve: removes 2 conditions
- Mantra of distraction: dazes on use
- Time Warp: quickness good, alternatively you could go with Moa for the interrupt (but the spell sucks kittens)

Runes:
- Centaur runes: grant swiftness on heal (10s CD)

I tried to synergize interruption with mantras with healing with condition removal: the idea was that by casting Mantra of distraction, you interrupted your foe, applied vulnerability, damaged him, healed yourself (and automatically dispelled conditions on you) and received swiftness.

This was the idea at least. However, Restorative mantras procs on “preparing” the mantra and not on using the charges, making this combo pretty useless or, at the very best, occasional.

Now, I understand that proccing the heal on every charge might be OP (If you had 4 mantras ready and were specced deep in the domination tree, you could heal a total of 4*3 = 12 times), but if you put a CD on this heal, like kitten and, if still OP, reduced the amount healed, it could be viable (Beside that some mantra charges have more than 1s CD)

Suggestion:
Make “Restorative mantras” proc only on “using” (and not preparing) the mantras, put an internal CD of ca 4s and, if still overpowered(Rofl), reduce the amount healed (or viceversa). However, I don’t think it would be that devastating since very few people use mantras, considering they are less versatile than other utilities and, in general, are “dull”.

Even if you didn’t play this exact build but another one using the inspiration tree, you could still gain the benefit of using at least one mantra for the mantra => heal => condition removal chain.

What would this change bring?
- People would be using mantras “slightly” more often
- Mesmers would have an easier access to condition removal
- Build diversity, as you wished

Taking into account the recent nerf on blurred frenzy and Illusion celerity, I think it would be enough fair.

What do you fellow mesmers think?

(edited by Metallus.7690)

Restorative Mantras suggestion

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Posted by: Sinaya.4201

Sinaya.4201

I think you might be confused about how some of the “on heal” (Mender’s Purity – Inspiration IV / Centaur Runes) triggers work.

These abilities are only activated by using a #6 heal ability. (Ether Feast, Mirror, Mantra of Recovery) Rune triggers in particular typically have a 10 second cool down as well. In addition, preparing Mantra of Recovery will not activate Mender’s Purity for a condition cleanse, but using the Power Return charges will. (Also keep in mind that Mender’s Purity does not have an internal cool down, so with the Harmonious Mantras trait, you could trigger three quick condition removals all at once if you used all three heal charges.)

That said, activating a Restorative Mantras trigger by preparing a Mantra also will not activate the Swiftness from Runes of the Centaur. (Although using Power Return from Mantra of Recovery will trigger Mender’s Purity)

In summary:

You won’t get Swiftness from Runes of the Centaur from triggering a Restorative Mantras heal by preparing a Mantra.

You won’t clear conditions via Mender’s Purity (Inspiration IV) from triggering a Restorative Mantras heal by preparing a Mantra.

In other words, (generally) procs don’t proc procs.

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