Scepter is faster in melee

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Posted by: Lumpy.8760

Lumpy.8760

is it by design that the mesmer’s ether bolt combo is more responsive while in melee range?

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Posted by: Sebbl.2806

Sebbl.2806

Looks like the next chain attack starts right after the prior attack hits the target.
Near target → faster chain?

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Posted by: Passive Aggressive.3154

Passive Aggressive.3154

Isn’t it like this for all scepter users? Certainly felt much faster on my guardian.

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Posted by: Liavain Axon.1972

Liavain Axon.1972

Staff is also the same. I get far more bounces and seem to cast them faster.

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Posted by: gelgora.2054

gelgora.2054

yea I’ve noticed the closer you are to a target, the faster you’ll swing at it. I figured it out in wvwvw standing next to an undefended tower door.

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Posted by: Celeras.4980

Celeras.4980

Looks like the next chain attack starts right after the prior attack hits the target.
Near target -> faster chain?

That’s what it is. The cast bars are exactly the same, but the next swing doesn’t start until you hit the target. That happens faster the closer you are.

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Posted by: tbesniper.7548

tbesniper.7548

Confirmed for Scepter.
60 attacks in ~65 sec. at melee range.
60 attacks in ~78 sec. at max. range.

The 2nd cast, Ether Blast, is the problem. It will only start to cast once the privious cast hits the target.

Nothing like this on the staff though.
50 attacks in ~67 sec. at melee range.
50 attacks in ~67 sec. at max. range.

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Posted by: juno.1840

juno.1840

I think this should be flagged as a bug. The DPS should not be dependent upon range. The game does support multiple projectiles at the same time (Staff 1 with bounce trait, guardian scepter, etc). Unless there’s a balance issue or some functional limitation, it should be changed.

Part of me thinks that someone in ANet was thinking “hey, wanna see something funny? Watch this…”

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Posted by: EasymodeX.4062

EasymodeX.4062

Agree, good catch!

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Posted by: Shaiden.2389

Shaiden.2389

Great catch! I always felt something like this was happening, but never took the initiative to test it. Nice job. This should definitely be placed in the main Mesmer bug list, as distance should not affect the attack rate, just like with the staff…

Another reason why the scepter kind of sucks tbh.

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Posted by: SuburbanLion.8095

SuburbanLion.8095

Good catch!

Does this affect our clones too?

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Posted by: nostagmus.9851

nostagmus.9851

Good catch. I suspect a projectile must register to hit before the skill can be swapped to the next in the chain (scepter), altering attack speed. Just a guess tho. This might also be why staffs aren’t affected.

It’s a shame you can’t test the skill swap theory with swords :/

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Posted by: Yamirashi.6430

Yamirashi.6430

Nostagmus is right. Problem is that Scepter 1 is a chain. Therefore it can’t just spam the attack the way Guardian Scepter 1 does or our Staff 1 does. It has to wait to see if the attack hits to know whether to start the chain over or go to the next step of the chain.

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Posted by: EasymodeX.4062

EasymodeX.4062

So this is better isolated as a bug with “range projectile chain attacks”.

Wonder how many classes have this type of auto.

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Posted by: Raiden Omega.7825

Raiden Omega.7825

This is interesting. As I use my scepter with a sword and use that combo while soloing for the counter attacks that make a quick fight in most cases I guess it’s been to a real advantage to me. I have noticed though that at longer distances for mobs that I want to have clones get attacked early on it is much slower getting them all out. Or at least it seems.

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Posted by: Lysico.4906

Lysico.4906

I play the same way Raiden. Two blocks and septer 3 is all you need.

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Posted by: Lumpy.8760

Lumpy.8760

i made a thread in the suggestions section because this issue is being overlooked as a bug and may be an intended feature

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Posted by: ManCaptain.3154

ManCaptain.3154

Confirmed for Scepter.
60 attacks in ~65 sec. at melee range.
60 attacks in ~78 sec. at max. range.

This implies that it was intended to be 60 attacks in 60 sec (even melee range has some added flight time).