Guild Wars 2

Moa is just dumb. A free kill almost every minute? With stealth it leaves no room for counterplay.

And that burst damage. Helseth is still blowing people up in 2 seconds with Greatsword burst.

Mesmer needs to be nerfed. A lot. Right now. Alacrity nerf was not enough.

I once lost 50% of my health with one mesmer combo on thief! Anet, if you have any appreciation for this game, nerf mesmer.

Make mindwreck have a 29 sec cd… that should do it

Chip Skylark.2367:

Moa is just dumb. A free kill almost every minute? With stealth it leaves no room for counterplay.

And that burst damage. Helseth is still blowing people up in 2 seconds with Greatsword burst.

Mesmer needs to be nerfed. A lot. Right now. Alacrity nerf was not enough.

because every Mesmer players are like Helseth, if that was the case we would’ve seen Mesmers as part of the past metas longer then ele/war/thief etc and had higher representation in ESL…

It doesn’t take Helseth level skill to press decoy and then press Moa.

After that, if you can’t kill a bird, you’re probably a vegetarian in which case there is no hope for you.

Mesmer deals damage, anet pls. They have quickness and blink and moa and stealth and alacrity and buffed scepter and 7 specialisations with all traits at the same time.

Decrease their damage by 33% and decrease their base health by 66%. And when they use elite they should get stunned for 5 sec. And remove their blur.

Mesmer main btw. So disgusted that todays mesmer is so ez faceroll, mesmers used to require skill! Kappa

Chip Skylark.2367:

if you can’t kill a bird, you’re probably a vegetarian in which case there is no hope for you.

I have never seen anything more true than this

Chip Skylark.2367:

It doesn’t take Helseth level skill to press decoy and then press Moa.

After that, if you can’t kill a bird, you’re probably a vegetarian in which case there is no hope for you.

Correction.
If you can’t prevent yourself being killed as a moa 1v1, you suck at this game.

Mesmer literally has no sustained damage, and easily avoidable burst damage.

Burst damage that, by the way, does not 100-0 moa.
Because moa actually has added toughness and vitality.

Lusteregris.2697:

Mesmer deals damage, anet pls. They have quickness and blink and moa and stealth and alacrity and buffed scepter and 7 specialisations with all traits at the same time.

Decrease their damage by 33% and decrease their base health by 66%. And when they use elite they should get stunned for 5 sec. And remove their blur.

Mesmer main btw. So disgusted that todays mesmer is so ez faceroll, mesmers used to require skill! Kappa

I don’t appreciate your sarcasm. This was meant to be a serious thread so we can discuss how to balance this trainwreck of a class.

Lusteregris.2697:

Mesmer deals damage, anet pls. They have quickness and blink and moa and stealth and alacrity and buffed scepter and 7 specialisations with all traits at the same time.

Decrease their damage by 33% and decrease their base health by 66%. And when they use elite they should get stunned for 5 sec. And remove their blur.

Mesmer main btw. So disgusted that todays mesmer is so ez faceroll, mesmers used to require skill! Kappa

Yes, obviously we don’t want to nerf them too much. Damage decrease should be moderate to be on level with other weaker classes.

Please no trolls in this thread.

should nerf alacrity from 33% to 20% i feel it’s still way too strong, also how can you legit let mesmer get access to double elite with continuum split? that is so obviously broken it’s not even funny

bluri.2653:

should nerf alacrity from 33% to 20% i feel it’s still way too strong, also how can you legit let mesmer get access to double elite with continuum split? that is so obviously broken it’s not even funny

This guy is the voice of the people so much truth in one simple comment

its admireable

I totally agree with you.
A lot of mesmers are crying about the chronobunk nerf but what they don’t realize is that shatter mesmer is absolutely broken.
There is a reason why Moa is banned in every 1v1 tournament. It is quite literally the strongest elite in the game. You pretty much delete a player every time you moa someone, and the fact that you can continuum split and double cast moa or reduce the cooldown to about a minute is absurd.
I really hope that anet re-balances so it is on par with the other elites in the game, or add some sort of counter play to it.

Yes mesmer shld be nerfed till they only have auto attack and nothing else. Free food. Lets nerf the mesmer to accomodate someone’s lack of skill. Moa already have a cast time and long cd and can be blocked, just make it uncastable.

yeah honestly core mesmer is okay but chrono shatter is just spam blind and moa every 70 seconds… i miss the days when mesmer was actually skilled.

MountainPanda.5831:

Yes mesmer shld be nerfed till they only have auto attack and nothing else. Free food. Lets nerf the mesmer to accomodate someone’s lack of skill. Moa already have a cast time and long cd and can be blocked, just make it uncastable.

Again… stealth + Moa.

Good luck blocking/dodging something that you can’t see.

Or you can daze into Moa.

If mesmers want to keep Moa that bad, then they should give up something else. Like stealth. Stealth is supposed to be for Thieves anyway. Why do mesmers even need it?

Let’s be honest guys, continuum split is STUPIDLY OVERPOWERED. Who at arena net thought it’d be a good idea to be able to Moa someone two TIMES in a matter of seconds! How are people meant to survive as a bird when you cant even use your healing skill?

How to fix: Completely delete continuum split and replace it with a shatter skill that puts two stacks of torment and 5% scepter attack speed stack each clone shattered. This would in my opinion would make the recent mesmer buffs even better, thus making mesmer see some ESL play.

Chip Skylark.2367:

MountainPanda.5831:

Yes mesmer shld be nerfed till they only have auto attack and nothing else. Free food. Lets nerf the mesmer to accomodate someone’s lack of skill. Moa already have a cast time and long cd and can be blocked, just make it uncastable.

Again… stealth + Moa.

Good luck blocking/dodging something that you can’t see.

Or you can daze into Moa.

If mesmers want to keep Moa that bad, then they should give up something else. Like stealth. Stealth is supposed to be for Thieves anyway. Why do mesmers even need it?

Dont forget that dazing also gives you quickness for 50% faster cast! Then just faceroll to win.

Finally, this is the truth Mesmer players denied since the game released. The class itself is braindead, it’s basically built around cheesing other players while abusing instacast stuns and dealing way too much burst damage. I’m not even talking about Moa, though that skill is, as even Helseth said, brokenly op. Yeah, it might take more than half a brain cell to kite around and abuse jumpspots on Forest or Legacy, but this doesn’t justify the fact that you can absolutely delete everybody with instacast stun + Mirror Blade + Mind Wrack. Please Anet, listen!

Wasn’t Anets promise to bring balance into the game and that every class should be playable?
But still they keep skills like Moa that defy every logic of balanced game play. Especially in combination with stealth ganking its just rediculous…Especially if you have no traits to keep you from cc you are basically a “freekill” as this streamer Helseth always calls the moa’ed players. And as mentioned above the ability to copy that skill with CS is just insane. How are you even supposed to fight even fights like 2v2 or 3v3 if one team mate is perma degraded to a moa-.-

Why has no one even mentioned portal? I’m honestly beginning to think you’re all Mesmer mains.

Let’s list the problems with shatter mesmer for people who are just tuning in.

1. Short CD 100-0 Burst
2. Decoy+Moa (guaranteed free kill) roughly every minute.
3. Portal (The most broken skill in GW2 Esports on a 40 second cooldown with Alacrity)

If you can’t see how broken this is, I’m just going to assume you’re here to troll. No other class can touch a good shatter mesmer. This is a fact.

U can abuse portal like hell. If a Rev does sword 3 on u, just use portal. He has to follow u, then u portal back and the Rev will never been seen again. Easy 4vs5 at this point.

Seriously i stopped playing Mesmer because nothing can stop me, so boring.

Yeah portal is overpowered, you can bait Revenant Sword 3 and reposition them out of a teamfight.

lol, oh I sincerely pray that portal and moa are deleted, and F5 double elites.

Then we might actually be fixed in all other aspects of gameplay…

dR Nobody.8457:

U can abuse portal like hell. If a Rev does sword 3 on u, just use portal. He has to follow u, then u portal back and the Rev will never been seen again. Easy 4vs5 at this point.

Seriously i stopped playing Mesmer because nothing can stop me, so boring.

In coordinated group play, portal is easily the most valuable skill in Guild Wars 2 Spvp.

And it’s on a 40 sec CD.

I didn’t even think of the revenant juke, that’s insane.

Chip Skylark.2367:

Why has no one even mentioned portal? I’m honestly beginning to think you’re all Mesmer mains.

Let’s list the problems with shatter mesmer for people who are just tuning in.

1. Short CD 100-0 Burst
2. Decoy+Moa (guaranteed free kill) roughly every minute.
3. Portal (The most broken skill in GW2 Esports on a 40 second cooldown with Alacrity)

If you can’t see how broken this is, I’m just going to assume you’re here to troll. No other class can touch a good shatter mesmer. This is a fact.

I just dont agree with the “good shatter mesmer” part… Cmon.. everyone can faceroll the keyboard and have the same results… Its so braindead. Cmon are you trolling or what? “good shatter mesmers only” give me a break.

Not sure if joke or troll?… But if not, you could just doge into the illusions regardless of Moa and mitigate most if not all of the damage? If you are constantly getting surrounded by illusions where you cannot, you are bad at positioning and need to work on that :/

For shatters to be effective you need to hit with multiple shatters, to achieve max damage (which I want to point out is still less than what a thief can pull off in the same duration with better escape) that is 6 cool downs or 4 cooldowns and 2 doges and this is presuming they didn’t die in Cleave/AoE <- on top of this most weapon sets only have one clone generator and one phantasm.

Easy damage to mitigate, long set up, kite and kill able sustain.

Also since energy sigil nerfs that means no more free clones.

For chrono specifically with the changes to alacrity they cannot do their long combo as frequent, and chrono line gives up a rather large chunk of defense or offense compared to the 5 core lines for the exchange of a bit more efficientcy and frequency. (Which really if it was not for the added mobility and CS the line wouldn’t be worth it)

If you see CS rift dropped just kite and wait it out, not like they can cap the point anyways, it’s easy to play around.

If you run at it and let him pop all his C/Ds or don’t predict key cool downs coming after stealth for those few seconds, well then it’s your own fault.

This was all relevant 1v1 but as you may know the game is not balanced around 1v1, so if you get blind sided and die to a +1 don’t get so salty?

Also if a Mesmer moas me regardless of what I am playing at the time (except Moa is actually a DPS buff as a Mesmer lol) I can still kill him. <-mesmers predictably use it as an “oh kitten button” or as an opener to gain momentum (which really shouldn’t be done since it’s not good reactive play imo). Both ways are easy to play around.

Hope I fed you enough have a nice day.

If this whole thread was a joke, I would not laugh… But it’s not, so that actually makes me laugh…

• I very rarely die as a moa. I can’t remember the last time I actually died… You should consider having a look at the moa skills and you will realize that they are actually good…
• shatter burst is fairly high, but avoidable. And after this burst, the mesmer really does not have much to finish you (lowest sustained damage of all classes). Just for comparison, a thief burst from stealth leaves no counterplay (it is a single damaging hit while the shatter burst is a combo so you can avoid the end of it) and then they can heartseeker you to death, bound-dodge to death or even AA to death.
• a typical shatter mesmer has nearly 0 defenses outside of stealth and in particular nearly 0 condi cleanse.

All of this results in shatter mesmer being absolutely unviable in the current meta. For the sake of balance, it’s not a nerf shatter mesmer needs but a serious buff.

People should not be allowed to call for nerfs until they try the build themselves and realize that they spend their time waiting for respawn.

Daishi.6027:

Not sure if joke or troll?… But if not, you could just doge into the illusions regardless of Moa and mitigate most if not all of the damage? If you are constantly getting surrounded by illusions where you cannot, you are bad at positioning and need to work on that :/

For shatters to be effective you need to hit with multiple shatters, to achieve max damage (which I want to point out is still less than what a thief can pull off in the same duration with better escape) that is 6 cool downs or 4 cooldowns and 2 doges and this is presuming they didn’t die in Cleave/AoE <- on top of this most weapon sets only have one clone generator and one phantasm.

Easy damage to mitigate, long set up, kite and kill able sustain.

Also since energy sigil nerfs that means no more free clones.

For chrono specifically with the changes to alacrity they cannot do their long combo as frequent, and chrono line gives up a rather large chunk of defense or offense compared to the 5 core lines for the exchange of a bit more efficientcy and frequency. (Which really if it was not for the added mobility and CS the line wouldn’t be worth it)

If you see CS rift dropped just kite and wait it out, not like they can cap the point anyways, it’s easy to play around.

If you run at it and let him pop all his C/Ds or don’t predict key cool downs coming after stealth for those few seconds, well then it’s your own fault.

This was all relevant 1v1 but as you may know the game is not balanced around 1v1, so if you get blind sided and die to a +1 don’t get so salty?

Also if a Mesmer moas me regardless of what I am playing at the time (except Moa is actually a DPS buff as a Mesmer lol) I can still kill him. <-mesmers predictably use it as an “oh kitten button” or as an opener to gain momentum (which really shouldn’t be done since it’s not good reactive play imo). Both ways are easy to play around.

Hope I fed you enough have a nice day.

Funny how your first point directly contradicts your last comment.

If (and this is a big IF) it is possible to survive 1v1 while in Moa form, it still means that you are 100% a free kill in a team fight vs a coordinated team.

Once per minute, a Mesmer can turn the tide of a team fight with just one skill. How is that balanced? Especially when you add portal and insane burst into the equation.

And to all the “Moa survivors”, you must have been facing some pretty horrible players if they weren’t able to finish you. I’m sorry but this is a fact.

Double Moa at the start of the game means that your team can essentially turn a 4v4 into a 4v2. This should not be a thing.

You guys can call me a troll all you want, but this thread is getting attention so enjoy your broken class while you can.

While we are at it, can we make clones look different then the mesmer? I mean like COME ON ANET THEY LOOK SO ALIKE I CANT TELL THE DIFFERENCE. and greatsword a 1200 range weapon?! Pfft

you guys are clearly playing a different game than everyone else. Or maybe you haven’t played in two years. do you have a guy that, every Monday stops by and scrapes the dried up drool from your keyboards? shatter is broken! it needs nerfs bad!! I’ve seen helseth, eat a bowl of noodles while melting people with Moa+greatsword combos.

agreed, u r juz bad, mes isnt that amazing

Chip Skylark.2367:

Mr. Obvious Mesmer Main.

1. You’re in the mesmer forum. How many people did you expect to come across your post that aren’t mesmer mains?

2. How do you expect to have a “constructive” thread in a mesmer forum if you insist that people who main mesmer have nothing to contribute? On the contrary, the people who are best positioned to provide constructive criticism on a class are the people who main that class.

Chip Skylark.2367:

Daishi.6027:

Not sure if joke or troll?… But if not, you could just doge into the illusions regardless of Moa and mitigate most if not all of the damage? If you are constantly getting surrounded by illusions where you cannot, you are bad at positioning and need to work on that :/

For shatters to be effective you need to hit with multiple shatters, to achieve max damage (which I want to point out is still less than what a thief can pull off in the same duration with better escape) that is 6 cool downs or 4 cooldowns and 2 doges and this is presuming they didn’t die in Cleave/AoE <- on top of this most weapon sets only have one clone generator and one phantasm.

Easy damage to mitigate, long set up, kite and kill able sustain.

Also since energy sigil nerfs that means no more free clones.

For chrono specifically with the changes to alacrity they cannot do their long combo as frequent, and chrono line gives up a rather large chunk of defense or offense compared to the 5 core lines for the exchange of a bit more efficientcy and frequency. (Which really if it was not for the added mobility and CS the line wouldn’t be worth it)

If you see CS rift dropped just kite and wait it out, not like they can cap the point anyways, it’s easy to play around.

If you run at it and let him pop all his C/Ds or don’t predict key cool downs coming after stealth for those few seconds, well then it’s your own fault.

This was all relevant 1v1 but as you may know the game is not balanced around 1v1, so if you get blind sided and die to a +1 don’t get so salty?

Also if a Mesmer moas me regardless of what I am playing at the time (except Moa is actually a DPS buff as a Mesmer lol) I can still kill him. <-mesmers predictably use it as an “oh kitten button” or as an opener to gain momentum (which really shouldn’t be done since it’s not good reactive play imo). Both ways are easy to play around.

Hope I fed you enough have a nice day.

Funny how your first point directly contradicts your last comment.

If (and this is a big IF) it is possible to survive 1v1 while in Moa form, it still means that you are 100% a free kill in a team fight vs a coordinated team.

Once per minute, a Mesmer can turn the tide of a team fight with just one skill. How is that balanced? Especially when you add portal and insane burst into the equation.

And to all the “Moa survivors”, you must have been facing some pretty horrible players if they weren’t able to finish you. I’m sorry but this is a fact.

Double Moa at the start of the game means that your team can essentially turn a 4v4 into a 4v2. This should not be a thing.

You guys can call me a troll all you want, but this thread is getting attention so enjoy your broken class while you can.

As I said, just play the class and you will see…

Yes Moa is useful. That is why people use it. But no, a moa is not a free kill. And as long as you don’t play against organized team, you will never die to a moa.

Moa is mostly good to shut down bunkers. Bunker needs their active defense (heal, blocks, evades and so on) to survive, so turning a bunker to a moa makes the killing easier. But if you are not a bunker, chances are you can survive more easily as a moa than not a moa.

And in any case, shatter mesmer is in an awful state right now, so even with “OP” skills like moa or portal, it is not really worth bringing to a team.

Mesmer, stomping noobs since 2012

AlphatheWhite.9351:

Chip Skylark.2367:

Mr. Obvious Mesmer Main.

You’re in the mesmer forum. How many people did you expect to come across your post that aren’t mesmer mains?

I certainly wasn’t expecting this much toxicity. Helseth is a bad influence on you guys.

Chip Skylark.2367:

AlphatheWhite.9351:

Chip Skylark.2367:

Mr. Obvious Mesmer Main.

You’re in the mesmer forum. How many people did you expect to come across your post that aren’t mesmer mains?

I certainly wasn’t expecting this much toxicity. Helseth is a bad influence on you guys.

1. The pot has no right to call the kettle black. Your entire approach to this thread has been hyperbolic and inflammatory. Phraseology like “this trainwreck of a class,” and your persistent dismissal of opinions as “oh, you’re probably just a mesmer main” are themselves toxic behavior. Don’t call for constructive criticism if you are unwilling to take criticism of your premises and try to understand it.

2. Don’t kitten where you eat. Helseth is a primary basis for your argument. Moving next to imply that he’s a bad influence undermines your point. It doesn’t help that AFAIK, the last word from Helseth on the actual state of the mesmer post-patch is that we’re out of the meta. Your own primary source doesn’t seem to agree with you. Not that Helseth being able to squish noobs means much at this point. He could dominate unranked with a cleric guardian.

My fury is directed towards poor balancing. It is not my fault if the mesmers on this forum take the game so seriously that they feel the need to resort to ad-hominem arguments.

If tossing personal attacks at me is the best you guys can do, I think I’ve rested my case.

And please don’t quote Helseth. His opinions on mesmer balancing are irrelevant. Say it with me, “Conflict of Interest”.

I think all i’m seeing from the first few posts on this thread is a bunch of people that have never played mesmer, trying to play against mesmer.

“nerf shatter,” makes me laugh. shatter, condi or not, is one of the most easily avoidable bursts, play a glassy shatter mesmer for once and lemme know how you do trying to lock down and hit your opponent with 8 or more clones in the span of a few seconds and then you can talk about how shatter needs a nerf.

shatter is pretty much all we have at this point. chronobunk is done, chrono in general is hanging by a thread, phantasm is dead, nobody uses it, PU is trash and will never be seen in spvp due to inability to cap and too varied boon on stealth and no support.

PS if you’re getting killed by a single GS-shatter combo, try running something other than glass thief at 50% health.

and nobody competent runs moa, only trolls; stop complaining about hotjoin gameplay.

Spanny.9256:

and nobody competent runs moa, only trolls; stop complaining about hotjoin gameplay.

Moa has been used in pro league multiple times this season.

Chip Skylark.2367:

My fury is directed towards poor balancing. It is not my fault if the mesmers on this forum take the game so seriously that they feel the need to resort to ad-hominem arguments.

If tossing personal attacks at me is the best you guys can do, I think I’ve rested my case.

And please don’t quote Helseth. His opinions on mesmer balancing are irrelevant. Say it with me, “Conflict of Interest”.

Except you never had a case.

Chip Skylark.2367:

Spanny.9256:

and nobody competent runs moa, only trolls; stop complaining about hotjoin gameplay.

Moa has been used in pro league multiple times this season.

Chronobunker was meta this season. Try again later.

AlphatheWhite.9351:

Chip Skylark.2367:

Spanny.9256:

and nobody competent runs moa, only trolls; stop complaining about hotjoin gameplay.

Moa has been used in pro league multiple times this season.

Chronobunker was meta this season. Try again later.

Scrapper is meta now. Druid is still a thing. People will always find tanky builds. Moa will always have a place.

Chip Skylark.2367:

AlphatheWhite.9351:

Chip Skylark.2367:

Spanny.9256:

and nobody competent runs moa, only trolls; stop complaining about hotjoin gameplay.

Moa has been used in pro league multiple times this season.

Chronobunker was meta this season. Try again later.

Scrapper is meta now. Druid is still a thing. People will always find tanky builds. Moa will always have a place.

My point was that moa was being used by chronobunkers. Your complaint is about shatter. We won’t know how those are used in the pro scene until ranked starts up again. The news from the “pros” like Helseth is that they are not optimistic about Mesmer’s chances. This makes sense, shatter mesmer isn’t much better at this point than it was before June, and we weren’t meta before that. Other classes, though, are all stronger because of their elite specs, and our primary predators (thief, necro) have received very significant buffs.

I think that’s why you received such a negative response, though, because it really seemed like you might be trolling. Shatter OP? Most mesmer mains have been desperately trying to come up with builds that are even viable post-patch, and the results have been mixed at best. Even some of the more optimistic players have been pretty skeptical.
And that’s with games full of thief/necro FotM players who aren’t yet up to speed on what their new class can do. Once they catch up, and ranked starts up again, it’s set to get a lot tougher for us.

All of that, and you come in here insisting that shatter mesmer is a “trainwreck” in how op it is, and that Moa is the reason why? Naw man, the experience of mesmer mains right now seems to be that it’s getting really tough to play even shatter mesmer, and it’s just gonna get tougher.

wow a thread in which someone complain about the burst of a profession that have as only mean of dps some chunk of bursting damage…

Q. : Seriously, how many professions can 100-0 any other profession with the right glass canon build?
A. : All professions.

If we follow your logic OP, on the next step Anet will probably have to nerf the warrior axe zerker (note that I chose an unimaginable warrior build) because they are able to chain decapitate in zerker state and thus killing you in a few second…

Shatter builds have been used to burst people since age. These are squishy build that are meant to destroy other squishy builds. Nothing new under the sun. If you look at the red subject on top of the mesmer forum you’ll see at the very top a thread written by osicat which was doing the exact same thing as what you are complaining now. There have been countless variant of the build over the time being power shatter or condi shatter or even hybrid shatter and you know what? Despite the fact that it’s super effective it has never been meta because the moment people grasp how it work, it become easy to overcome.

So here, you just have to grasp the timing of it’s burst and fully use your environment and moa skills when in moa form. Oh and I also recommend that you use amulet with a bit of toughness and vitality until you learn to dodge the obvious bursts in this game. It’s not like 3 illusions runing at you ain’t an obvious sign of a burst.

the problem is that all top mesmers are super bad so noone can show how to play the class.

I agree, moa every 50 seconds 3 times with Signet of illusions + mad condis ( 30 stacks of cripple, 25 immob + 5 stacks of fear + mad bleeds with all your phantasms that never die ) + nearly unkillable illusions + through the roof condis removals from inspiration ( and here I thought shoutbow was immune to condis ) + 7 to 8 ccs chained together + perma invis ( WTF is even the point of thief?!?!? ) + instant one shots on short CD ( alacrity OP who even thought giving only 1 class something this OP was good?!?!? ) + 25k health or MORE. I don’t see how anyone can defend this mesmer OP. The second they got a unique mechanic like alacrity is the second anet stepped out of the shadows and showed they biased towards mesmer ( not like we didn’t all know from launch mesmer is there baby ). Time for some other class like ele to get a chance in the spotlight plz ty.

What they need to do is buff reaper

Hvaran.6327:

the problem is that all top mesmers are super bad so noone can show how to play the class.

Very true.

TheFrighteningFrenchFry.3275:

Time for some other class like ele to get a chance in the spotlight

Okay, this one got me. Thank you for the laugh XD

Chip Skylark.2367:

Spanny.9256:

and nobody competent runs moa, only trolls; stop complaining about hotjoin gameplay.

Moa has been used in pro league multiple times this season.

it’s spelled chronobunk
and idc if moa WAS used in pro league, you sure as heck aren’t playing anybody of that caliber, otherwise you’d know it and wouldn’t have made this whole thread in the first place, asking for mesmer to stop bursting so hard qqqqq

TheFrighteningFrenchFry.3275:

I agree, moa every 50 seconds 3 times with Signet of illusions + mad condis ( 30 stacks of cripple, 25 immob + 5 stacks of fear + mad bleeds with all your phantasms that never die ) + nearly unkillable illusions + through the roof condis removals from inspiration ( and here I thought shoutbow was immune to condis ) + 7 to 8 ccs chained together + perma invis ( WTF is even the point of thief?!?!? ) + instant one shots on short CD ( alacrity OP who even thought giving only 1 class something this OP was good?!?!? ) + 25k health or MORE. I don’t see how anyone can defend this mesmer OP. The second they got a unique mechanic like alacrity is the second anet stepped out of the shadows and showed they biased towards mesmer ( not like we didn’t all know from launch mesmer is there baby ). Time for some other class like ele to get a chance in the spotlight plz ty.

how many traitlines do you think we get, you just described a mesmer using the traitlines of Illusions, Duelling, Chaos (and multiple traits that you can’t choose both of from this line), Chrono, Inspiration, and Domination.

i think i’m starting to realize, after rereading this trainwreck of a paragraph, that this is probably a troll