Guild Wars 2

I think the sigil of intelligence changes to 100% crit chance on your next three attacks when the patch comes out Tuesday.

So let’s say I get three clones out, then I swap to a weapon set that has this sigil and I presss F1 to do a Mind Wrack.

Does this count as one attack? Or are is each clone’s shatter an individual attack?

When clones shatter and they do AoE damage, is a crit roll done for each affected target, or does it do one check on the shatter?

If clones don’t survive the whole run to the target, do you think that would still consume one of the “attacks” for the sigil?

Thx much!

Well on the combat log it shows how much each one of your shattered illusion did damage to the target and iirc the intelligence sigil counts on strikes that are shown there. So I’d say a three illusion shatter counts as three attacks.

Of course, there’s the detail of the syntax: the sigil says " your next three attacks." Do those clones count as your attacks, or only the single instance of pressing F1? I would think that they would not count as your next three attacks.

Yea its three individual good idea tho. Each shatter can crit if that helps:p you could do vuln on crit sigil along with vuln on shatter so thats like 6 stakcs or so?

Im pretty sure they count as attacks because i thought they can proc on crit effects

Wait is there a vuln on crit sigil or am i imagining that lol

Seras.5702:

Of course, there’s the detail of the syntax: the sigil says " your next three attacks." Do those clones count as your attacks, or only the single instance of pressing F1? I would think that they would not count as your next three attacks.

Each entry in the damage log is one attack. This is why pistol whip thieves do not use hidden killer.

Yes – their is an on-crit vuln sigil (frailty), but I think it’s changing to on-hit tomorrow. All of the on-crit sigils have a cooldown, so as soon as the first crit happens, the sigil procs – you won’t get multiple procs.

I’m playing around with a build that has a horrible base crit chance. So I was wondering if I put sigil of intelligence and an on-crit sigil on the same weapon, how many chances would I really get to proc the sigil.

For example, let’s say I put sigil of intelligence and sigil of fire on a staff. I swap to the staff and send in three clones to do mindwrack and let’s say there’s one other mob standing next to my target (so inside the range of the shatter damage). The clones run up to the target and shatter. So now there are six total hits that happen – each clone that shatters hits two targets. I’m guessing that each hit is done in sequence, so the first clone that explodes uses two of the 100% crit chances because it hits two targets. Then the second clone uses the last 100% chance.

With a 30% chance to proc sigil of fire on crit, this isn’t that great. It’s expensive to use two sigils for this. But if each clone is guaranteed a crit on both targets, that’s six crits and now it gets more interesting. And if this really only took one of my three guaranteed crit attacks (pressing F1), then it’s even more interesting because I could do something like throw down chaos storm and get more multi-crit chances.

I guess it needs some testing – but if anyone has played with this, I would love to hear

eldenbri.1059:

Yes – their is an on-crit vuln sigil (frailty), but I think it’s changing to on-hit tomorrow. All of the on-crit sigils have a cooldown, so as soon as the first crit happens, the sigil procs – you won’t get multiple procs.

I’m playing around with a build that has a horrible base crit chance. So I was wondering if I put sigil of intelligence and an on-crit sigil on the same weapon, how many chances would I really get to proc the sigil.

For example, let’s say I put sigil of intelligence and sigil of fire on a staff. I swap to the staff and send in three clones to do mindwrack and let’s say there’s one other mob standing next to my target (so inside the range of the shatter damage). The clones run up to the target and shatter. So now there are six total hits that happen – each clone that shatters hits two targets. I’m guessing that each hit is done in sequence, so the first clone that explodes uses two of the 100% crit chances because it hits two targets. Then the second clone uses the last 100% chance.

With a 30% chance to proc sigil of fire on crit, this isn’t that great. It’s expensive to use two sigils for this. But if each clone is guaranteed a crit on both targets, that’s six crits and now it gets more interesting. And if this really only took one of my three guaranteed crit attacks (pressing F1), then it’s even more interesting because I could do something like throw down chaos storm and get more multi-crit chances.

I guess it needs some testing – but if anyone has played with this, I would love to hear

As I said before, each individual entry in the damage log is 1 attack. You don’t get to doubletap just because an attack hits 2 targets.

Thx Pryo. I was writing my long-winded answer while you were posting the efficient response.

It seems hard to come up with a scenario where it’s worth consuming two sigils just to get a good chance to proc an on-crit effect. Maybe the numbers will all be different tomorrow…

eldenbri.1059:

Thx Pryo. I was writing my long-winded answer while you were posting the efficient response.

It seems hard to come up with a scenario where it’s worth consuming two sigils just to get a good chance to proc an on-crit effect. Maybe the numbers will all be different tomorrow…

Yeah, I would strongly advise against trying to proc on-crit sigils just with the intelligence sigil. There’s going to be a lot of on-hit sigils tomorrow, so you’ll want to keep an eye on those.

Also watch out for your illusions attacks. Im not sure if they count as an attack to or if they can proc crit sigils but im pretty sure they do since they do dmg and they crit. Jst not sure if intelegince would apply to illusion autos

Mystogan.4157:

Also watch out for your illusions attacks. Im not sure if they count as an attack to or if they can proc crit sigils but im pretty sure they do since they do dmg and they crit. Jst not sure if intelegince would apply to illusion autos

Until the damage log is improved to standards of other modern mmos, it’s really really simple.

Does the damage appear in your damage log? No? Then it doesn’t count.

Yea well i cant recall if it does appear in log so and im not at home to teat so i was jst throwin it out there but i thought it did