Guild Wars 2

Hey all, I’m close to refining a S/Sc-F WvW condition build. I currently use Doom and it’s very strong. With my build I’m going to be able to inflict every condition in the game (except fear), and there is a strong torment focus. Adding the sigil would be my 3rd way to proc torment.

The build is focused around AoE control and condition spam, is good for 1vMany and is why the torment sigil is so appealing, since it’s AoE. Even though it’s one stack, I’ve got 100% torment duration so it’s going to be a pain. I like the relatively short 7s CD as well. By taking the torment sigil, I lose a poison source but still have one in Chaos Storm, though RnG.

So I need to decide if 2 poison/2 torment sources in this case is better than 1 RnG poison/3 torment sources. Another thing I’ve thought of is to go with doom on one set and torment on the other.

I would love to hear your opinions on what would be more effective, and also any experience you personally have with the torment sigils if you use/have used them.

This may not be true anymore, but torment sigils were working with other on crit and swap sigils in that they wouldn’t put each other on CD.

Carpboy.7145:

This may not be true anymore, but torment sigils were working with other on crit and swap sigils in that they wouldn’t put each other on CD.

Oooooh…can anyone confirm that this is still the case?

No idea about that, but I run Doom/Torment once I have a full set of stacks on my hybrid condi build. I just think it’s extra pressure with my ~50% crit chance.

I used to use doom all the time until I accepted that its awesomeness is pretty much limited to duels or tiny fights. Torment is ok in large fights, but even then there is generally a ton of condi clearing going around, and the 1 stack doesn’t do that much damage. Still I like using it in zergs because of the glitch.

My advice: stick with battle, or even consider hydromancy (underrated).

You generally have better luck with sigil of fire than sigil of torment if you want quick AoE damage, even if you spec for condition damage, especially in WvW.

But I switch to a staff with sigil of torment on it after getting 25 stacks in WvW. The multiple hits and chaos storm will usually proc it. I use a sigil of doom on a sceptor, since it’s single target and I don’t lose any potential from it, and a sigil of fire on the focus for more AoE.

From my personal experience, this has been the most reliable set up for me. Sigil of Doom on sceptor, because the first auto attack isn’t that slow. Sigil of Fire/ Torment on staff.

As for which one is better:

Sigil of Fire- Best, immediate AoE damage
Sigil of Torment- Decent for longer fights/ changing weapon sets immediately as to not idle during the 8 second icd
Sigil of Doom- Best for single target condition damage.

Great feedback everyone. I wasn’t aware of the on crit bug, hm.

This is primarily for a roaming build that can jump into zergs here and there and be decent. They sound pretty good when considering zerg play due to the AoE. At this point I’m leaning torment on staff and doom on scepter as shinoobi mentioned. Would love to hear more experiences, keep ’em coming.

Zen.4678:

No idea about that, but I run Doom/Torment once I have a full set of stacks on my hybrid condi build. I just think it’s extra pressure with my ~50% crit chance.

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Zen.4678:

No idea about that, but I run Doom/Torment once I have a full set of stacks on my hybrid condi build. I just think it’s extra pressure with my ~50% crit chance.

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AFAIK its fixed and on-swap and on-crit shares the cd. I test it once i’m online.

Well that sux, will test again tonight.

I didn’t have in mind to exploit this, but it would be great if someone could validate when it’s tested.