Stealthy Mesmer with DPS

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Posted by: Drudgen.6597

Drudgen.6597

Anyone got a build for me to have a play with?

Only just got to level 80 and looking to have a go in WvW.

Please explain gear, traits, weapons and play-style of said build.

Thanks

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Posted by: Bunda.2691

Bunda.2691

Try either a 20/20/30/0/0 or a 0/20/30/0/20. Staff, sword/torch and full zerker gear. Deceptive evasion and PU, and then either mental torment (if taking domination) or compounding power (in illusions) for hard hitting mind wracks. You have lots of mobility and clone production, as well as high stealth uptime and defensive boons.

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Posted by: Prism.5649

Prism.5649

Staff and full zerker? You going for some kind of shatter-hybrid?

There are two kinds of stealth Mesmers. Condition and hybrid PU (Prismatic Understanding, Chaos XII). Regardless of your build you will want to be using the torch (4s of stealth, Blind + Burn, and a blast finisher). Your other choice depends on your variant:

Condition PU will generally go with Staff + Scepter/Torch and Rabid gear.
Hybrid PU will generally go with Sword/Pistol + Sword/Torch and Zerker gear.

Both builds generally use the same 20/20/30/0/0 spec and most commonly use Rabid gear, though the individual traits change depending on your weapon choice.

These builds are highly trolol builds because you generally summon your staff clones or phantasms and then dance around in stealth while your illusions harass the opponent. Because of this PU Mesmers are really good at 1vX.

For a PU build Osicat just provided a shiny brand new video guide for the classic 20/20/30 PU:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLri428e498

Prismatic Storm: Ele
Prismatic Science: Engi
Prismatic Dream: Mesmer

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Posted by: Bunda.2691

Bunda.2691

If you’re shattering a lot or taking clone-death traits, zerker staff is fine. But greatsword works fine as well, just a different playstyle. Staff just can’t be beat for clone output in a shatter spec, even if GS works well too. I just prefer staff a little more in shatter because the boons and defensive qualities help mitigate the squishiness of full zerker.

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Posted by: Prism.5649

Prism.5649

All very true of shatter specs, but the OP was asking for stealth builds. Shatter builds and stealth builds are mutually exclusive:

If you have 30 points in Chaos for PU then you either cannot get 30 Illusions for Illusionary Persona (incredibly important for shatter builds) or you cannot get 20 Dueling for Deceptive Evasion (also incredibly important for shatter builds).

Also don’t forget that traits which activate on clone death do not activate when a clone is shattered. Traits like Crippling/Debilitatin Dissipation only activate when another player kills your clones or you overwrite them by summoning a new clone.

By trying to combine a shatter build with a stealth build you lose core components of each and end up with a sub-par hybrid. If you’re just using it to have personal fun then that’s great but by no means is it competitive in any way, and using it any kind of group situation is just hurting your group. And considering the OP asked for a WvW build (which is by its nature a competitive environment), giving out sub-par build advice is kind of rude.

PU stealth based builds generally do not shatter at all (unless you need an interrupt or distortion). Instead it is best to let the phantasms DPS or clones apply conditions, and then have them be killed by other players or overwritten by summoning new illusions because each time an illusion dies it puts Cripple and either Bleed, Vuln, or Weakness on anyone near it.

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Prismatic Science: Engi
Prismatic Dream: Mesmer

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Posted by: Bunda.2691

Bunda.2691

Try Grimm’s seven mirrors sword/torch, staff 0/20/30/0/20 direct damage shatter build (and keep in mind that he made that build before the buff to PU). Shatter is completely viable even if you don’t go 30 in illusions. Sure, your mind wrack is hitting for only 6k instead of 8k, but the added defense of PU makes up for it. But anyway, its just one playstle. You can go PU phantasm as well, but in my opinion it’s a little more boring to play, though equally viable.

To each their own. Mesmer allows so much variety.

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Posted by: Prism.5649

Prism.5649

Like I said, just because a build exists does not mean it’s a good build. Also like I said, when you’re on your own or in a casual environment, play whatever you want. But when other people are relying on you or when you are playing in a competitive environment you are going to want to have every advantage you can, and bringing the right build is a huge part of that.

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Prismatic Science: Engi
Prismatic Dream: Mesmer

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Posted by: Vash.1920

Vash.1920

Well for sure I bring the classic shatter zerker build into the options =D. Stealth is almost max only pu mesmers got “more” stealth.

20/20/0/0/30
10/30/0/0/30

game style: kill or get killed- it´s fast and full of action but u have to like it otherwise u won´t be happy with it.
Important: knowledge about other classes
pro: pure fun (if u like it), u can turn larger fights into wins, u will never be catched if u don´t want to (u can avoid fights with the build, good to flee,too)
contra: tough for beginners

or watch some of Osicats vids if u want some “named” players representing it.