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Posted by: eliroth.3869

eliroth.3869

I’ve been lurking these forums for awhile so I just wanted to give my input.
As much as possible, my goal with these changes is to incorporate Anet’s principle to “buff underused options” and “nerf overused options.” (which they have done quite a lot of) While I personally agree with the philosophy they’re using to create balance, I’ve yet to see it come to fruition, especially with the scepter weapons.

TOOL TIP FOR ALL PHANTASM.

  • a basic Quality of Life change.

Mind Stab:
This movie will strip the boon of an enemy BEFORE applying damage.
*This means that this move will practically ignore Aegis, Protection, Retaliation, Stability. Just to live up to it’s name, it should literally STAB the mind, bypassing physical barriers.

Staff:
Winds of Chaos: Increase projectile Speed
[These are really SLOW winds, the elementalist and necro staff auto attacks have decent speeds, why not Mesmer?]

Scepter:
Illusionary Counter: After successfully blocking an attack, daze foes for 1/4 a second then leap backwards 200m, summoning a clone at your place and inflicting torment on the enemy.
[One problem I’ve had with this skill is that even though I’ve blocked my enemy’s attack, somehow I still take damage because they aren’t pressured enough to stop attacking. I think they should be penalized more especially considering how obvious this animation is. Moreover since it’s a ranged weapon, the leap back should help to get distance between you and the foe]

Counterspell: Faster projectile speed.
[I would be more inclined to use this skill if the projectile would react as fast as I need it to. Normally when it’s been launched, the foe will have already used the burst I’m trying to avoid in the first place.]

Sword
My general problem with the Off-hand sword is that it doesn’t have a prominent SLASHING animation which is a waste considering the mesmer can dual wield swords (especially for swords with an after-image)

Illusionary Riposte:
On a successful block, create an illusion then use Mind Thrust.
- Mind Thrust: The same as Mind Spike but with a Leap forward (400m)

Counter Blade: Slash your blade upward so fast that it launches a vertical vacuum that slices forward and dazes foes.
[This is just to change the animation from the generic Scepter bolts.]

Phantasmal Swordsman: Slash in a circle and summon a phantasmal swordsman
Evade 1/2 second
[More slashing animations, yay]

Pistol
Magic Bullet:
if 1 target, that foe is Stunned, Dazed, binded, and confused
if 2 targets, the bullet alternates betweens the two. In other words, one foe is Stunned and blinded, the other is dazed and confused.
If 3 targets, the 1st target is stunned, the 2nd target is dazed, the 3rd target is confused, and 1st or 2nd target will be blinded (depending on proximity after 3rd bounce)
[This is to make the skill function similar to Revenant’s Relentless Assault wherein the skill is highly effective against single targets but is diminished when multiple targets are present.]

Torch:
Phantasmal Mage: transfers 1 burning condition to itself. Each stack of burning increases the Phantasmal Mage’s damage. The Phantasmal Mage’s damage still receives burning damage.

Slot skills
Healing
Mirror: User gains retaliation for 3 seconds when this skill is activated
(This is to give it more anti-physical defenses but just enough so mesmer is not impervious to melee hits.)

Utility:
Arcane Thievery
Send 5 Conditions you have to your foe and steal 5 of their boons
(This is just to make this skill more in line with Necro’s corrupt a boon back when it’s cooldown was still 45 seconds)

Mantra of Pain
Power Spike: Inflict 2 stacks of vulnerability and 1 stack of bleeding on your foe for 3 seconds (Up to 6 stacks if traited with Harmonius Mantras)
[Hopefully this will encourage power/condi builds to use this mantra]

Traits:
Restorative Mantras:
Casting a mantra heals you AND allies for a small amount.
Heals allies AROUND you for a large amount when you finish preparing a mantra.
[This is so that mantras give a reliable source of healing]

Ineptitude:
In addition, illusions that evade attacks will also blind foes.
[This is to synergize better with Protected Phantasms]

Chaotic Transference:
Gain condition damage based on your toughness
When you have 3 active illusions, each illusion will take 1 condition from you unto themselves. Cooldown 5 seconds
[To synergize with my suggestions for Malicious Sorcery]

Malicious Sorcery:
Increase attack speed of scepter 20%
Reduces recharge of Scepter skills
Ilusions will transfer conditions on them unto foes they hit; internal cool down PER Illusion is 3 seconds.
[Hopefully this will encourage taking this trait and using Scepter as a thematically condition weapon]

Chronomancer:

Danger Time:
Gain additional Critical-hit chance against slowed enemies
Increase critical damage on enemies by 5%
Damage taken from slowed enemies is reduced by 10%
(I believe this skill is meant to punish foes who do not cleanse the Slow condition. So it’s better to let it resemble Reaper’s Cold Shoulder.)

I did NOT fully consider how most of these changes will affect other classes however so suggestions and constructive criticisms are welcomed

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Posted by: rchu.8945

rchu.8945

good luck, sorry to burst your bubble, but Anet doesnt really care about Mesmers. Dont be encouraged by the “Gaile is looking into our situation!” thread, she has yet to offer any follow up, and most likely just sweep our concerns under the rug.

For the next 3 months we will just be trash tier. Either play a different alt, or catch up on your other games. It’s better for your health, trust me.

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Posted by: eliroth.3869

eliroth.3869

good luck, sorry to burst your bubble, but Anet doesnt really care about Mesmers. Dont be encouraged by the “Gaile is looking into our situation!” thread, she has yet to offer any follow up, and most likely just sweep our concerns under the rug.

For the next 3 months we will just be trash tier. Either play a different alt, or catch up on your other games. It’s better for your health, trust me.

I think you need to chill. It’s not about whether they’ll implement these changes or not, it’s about the fun of discussing a better Mesmer.
I will admit that with every changelog they release, I have this small hope that I’ll see some positive mesmer changes, but right now, it’s fun enough just to speculate or theorize how mesmer will change. That’s what forums are for

Pessimism isn’t particularly creative.

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Posted by: FJSAMA.2867

FJSAMA.2867

Dreaming about a reality that will never happen can start as “fun” but with a “reality check” in each patch notes it will surely end in frustration. And frustration is the key word when playing mesmer.
To comment on you changes, many things you did there will just make bad and underpowered skills into possible-good-niche but underpowered skills
Also you mixed up too much necro identity into mesmer…

Dont get angry when ppl say its pointless… For you to be in forum posting possible changes instead online playing in the first place is a good indicative of how “happy” you are with current state.. Mesmer forum is full of topics like that… I posted some…

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Posted by: eliroth.3869

eliroth.3869

So you’re telling me this entire community has given up and being snide and cynical the answer? Most just post topics about maining another class or just outright not playing, and it’s the MESMER forum.

I wasn’t addressing these changes towards the developers, it’s towards the Mesmer community forums. My expectations on these changes actually happening are slim.

Before scrapper came out, everyone was speculating it was going to be called the Forge instead. Mixed reactions on the reveal but that didn’t stop people from excitedly speculating on what could happen.

Regardless, thank you for your comments.

My ideal is that mesmer should also have a certain degree of boon control just like necro but instead of cleansing it, they misplace it. Moreover, I think good-niche is much better than either extreme of meta or unused because skill use can vary from Pve, WvW, and PvP. If they can fit a role somewhere or potentially open up unique build possibilities, isn’t that enough?

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Posted by: Incognito.3529

Incognito.3529

Illusionary Riposte: Block up to 3 incoming attacks, every block increase damage of this skill by 33%.

Mirror: Reflect incoming missiles, if your HP fall below 50% while casting this skill, mirror explode and apply AoE blind (8s) and 10 stacks of bleeding (3 seconds).

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Posted by: Ananeos.4587

Ananeos.4587

So you’re telling me this entire community has given up and being snide and cynical the answer? Most just post topics about maining another class or just outright not playing, and it’s the MESMER forum.

I wasn’t addressing these changes towards the developers, it’s towards the Mesmer community forums. My expectations on these changes actually happening are slim.

Before scrapper came out, everyone was speculating it was going to be called the Forge instead. Mixed reactions on the reveal but that didn’t stop people from excitedly speculating on what could happen.

Regardless, thank you for your comments.

My ideal is that mesmer should also have a certain degree of boon control just like necro but instead of cleansing it, they misplace it. Moreover, I think good-niche is much better than either extreme of meta or unused because skill use can vary from Pve, WvW, and PvP. If they can fit a role somewhere or potentially open up unique build possibilities, isn’t that enough?

http://psychcentral.com/lib/the-5-stages-of-loss-and-grief/

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Posted by: Curunen.8729

Curunen.8729

Yep. People are disillusioned because the current situation has been repeated many times during the life of this game such that any hope for a brighter future is not worth the effort.