Guild Wars 2

Hello! Just encountered a Mesmer in WvW that seemed to be able to cast Temporal Curtain at a range further than the standard 900 / 1200 units. I was wondering if this is due to a trait or active ability that I’m unaware of, as I was unable to reproduce it.

Here’s a video of it:
http://youtu.be/qgheKnrk03Q (you may have to turn it to 1080 to make it watchable)

Thanks in advance for helping me out!

Was this mesmer doing it often? You seemed to be recording this with the exact purpose of highlighting the range of temporal curtain.

Regardless, something is wrong there. I would have reported them, because they clearly are doing something less than kosher.

Edit: Just hopped on my mesmer to take a look at the curtain casting animation. That mesmer definitely cast a curtain. They also cast a curtain that would have appeared at the exact moment the curtain that pulled you appeared. While it is technically possible they had an accomplice closer to accomplish that trick, it would be very VERY difficult to pull of that sort of split second timing. Something is definitely very wrong here.

I did get pulled once before starting the capture, and was curious as to how they managed to outrange me. The main purpose of recording it was to see if there was any special ability combo used that might make this possible, since they seem to be activating a skill immediately before the actual Temporal Curtain (though nothing shows up in their buff bar that would be helpful in that regard).

I’m very wary of resorting to the ‘report’ option on things I’m not 100% sure about, so I wanted to run it by the general Mesmer populace first and see what they have to say. It would be ignorant of me to assume I’m completely aware of every game mechanic out there, and would rather attribute something like this to my own lack of information rather than any fishy activity. Thanks for your input so far!

I’m glad you mentioned the skill activation immediately before the pull. I rewatched the video, and now I’ll do a bit of analysis.

First: You are definitely farther than 1200 range away. Your iWarden has the red bar, so you are beyond 1200 range.

Second: The skill they cast before the curtain is definitely a phantasm summon.

Third: They do the same phantasm summon interrupt multiple times before they pull you.

EDIT: SOLVED!!!! I successfully reproduced the glitch. Basically, start with sword pistol. Start the iDuelist cast, then switch to sword/focus midcast and spam the temporal curtain key (must have fast cast enabled). The curtain will flash an out of range error, and then spawn anyway.

Edit: More testing. The position of your cursor does not matter. The curtain will spawn directly on top of the target.

Edit: More testing. There seems to be no maximum range. If you can target it, you can put a curtain on it.

Edit: More testing. Casting the curtain requires line of sight.

Edit: More testing. Only works with temporal curtain. Does not work with any utilities, or any other gtaoe skills.

Interesting! Seems like we have a decent bug report on our hands. I just tested it in the Mists on a Dummy with the same results; distance doesn’t matter as long as LoS isn’t broken and a target is selected. I’ll ferry this on over to the Bug Report forum then so it can be addressed. Thanks again for all your feedback and testing!

More testing: Seems to affect all line-type skills. I have succesfully reproduced the bug with guardian’s line of warding, and will test with the ele fire wall shortly.

time to troll jp harder until this is fixed

More testing: Unable to reproduce with ele’s fire wall.

Edit: More testing. Unable to reproduce using escape as the interrupt. It seems you must use weapon swap as the interrupt.

Pyroatheist.9031:

I’m glad you mentioned the skill activation immediately before the pull. I rewatched the video, and now I’ll do a bit of analysis.

First: You are definitely farther than 1200 range away. Your iWarden has the red bar, so you are beyond 1200 range.

Second: The skill they cast before the curtain is definitely a phantasm summon.

Third: They do the same phantasm summon interrupt multiple times before they pull you.

EDIT: SOLVED!!!! I successfully reproduced the glitch. Basically, start with sword pistol. Start the iDuelist cast, then switch to sword/focus midcast and spam the temporal curtain key (must have fast cast enabled). The curtain will flash an out of range error, and then spawn anyway.

Edit: More testing. The position of your cursor does not matter. The curtain will spawn directly on top of the target.

Edit: More testing. There seems to be no maximum range. If you can target it, you can put a curtain on it.

Edit: More testing. Casting the curtain requires line of sight.

Edit: More testing. Only works with temporal curtain. Does not work with any utilities, or any other gtaoe skills.

Amazed you picked this up mate, good job.

Anet need to fix this asap, imagine the potential to abuse.

Cross-posted to the Bug Report forum, feel free to add your findings there. I focused (heh) on this as a Mesmer issue for now since it’s definitely reproducible and of increased severity there, but if you would like to add details to your Guardian findings I’m sure it would prove helpful as well.

You guys might want to edit your posts out so this bug doesnt spread like the prestige.

I’m fine with this bug spreading like that. As much as it will be fun to mess with people, its a bug and an exploit, and needs fixing.

Is there a way something similar could be done with necro skills? There was a necro in wvw the other day that was consistently hitting people with conditions, and that chomping noise skill, from distances he shouldn’t have been able to. But he also seemed to be bouncing around an area in weird/way to fast ways, someone who plays necro said he was using some kind of teleport skill they have but that the skill didn’t have a cd that allowed spamming like this guy was doing.

wads.5730:

time to troll jp harder until this is fixed

This! ^^

I went to find some JP campers and ruined their day …

But honestly, there is almost no use outside of jumping puzzles. The glitch only works when you have direct line of sight, and that’s usually not the case when you try to pull enemies from keep walls or cliffs somewhere in WvW.

On the same day, I got attacked by iZerkers inside(!) of a tower. I was using an arrow cart in the courtyard behind the door, when suddenly an iZerker starts popping on me, and another one, and a third one …

Heh, the line of sight on iZerker got fixed long ago. How is this possible now? Maybe some related glitch?