The Pledge - Rework

The Pledge - Rework

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Posted by: Angel de Lyssa.4716

Angel de Lyssa.4716

Already could do better, this rework is not very good, well yes, only now we have a 20% recharge, but little more…

Seriously it just gives us x1 extra burning? Only for two skill … if the phantasmal also inflict an aditional x1 burning … but no, only for two skill that you need to use near the foes for you take advantage this trait. The phantasmal still same, inflict x2 burning…

The necro have a good trait for torch better than that trait “The Pledge”, the trait of necro for her torch get 20% recharge skill and 7% expertirse from your damage condition.

I’m just asking to need a better rework, x1 burning extra (x2 for this two skill) is little. It would be better inflict more conditions or more damage condition.

Something like:


The Pledge

Torch skills recharge a 20% more faster. Gain condition damage based on your precision.

Recharge reduced: 20%
Gain Condition Damage Based on a Percentage of Precision: 10%

Or, this idea, a additional condition and boon:


The Pledge

Torch skills recharge a 20% more faster. Now your Mage phantasmal also inflict confusion and retaliation.

x1 Confusion (3s)
Retaliation (3s)
Recharge reduced: 20%

I remind you that “confusion” is not very good for pve, a little damage increase condition would be the best.

I would choose the option that your Mage phantasmal inflict confusion and give retaliations, would be like the “Empathy” or “Backfire” skill of the mesmer from guild wars 1.

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Posted by: Curunen.8729

Curunen.8729

I agree the rework is a little… underwhelming.

The removal of condition removal is a loss, even if prestige has one as standard. The only real bonus is having flat -20% cooldown.

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Posted by: Levetty.1279

Levetty.1279

A flat 20% recharge was what I wanted when I thought we were getting a good condi weapon with Mirage. So that is nice kind of. Burning should also apply to Mage attacks and the mage attacks should be stronger base anyway.

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Posted by: OriOri.8724

OriOri.8724

Having the burning apply to mage attacks would be better. Or better yet, though this might be too strong for an adept trait, would be to have all of your attacks while wielding a torch have a chance to apply burning.

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Posted by: Zoltar MacRoth.7146

Zoltar MacRoth.7146

Having the burning apply to mage attacks would be better. Or better yet, though this might be too strong for an adept trait, would be to have all of your attacks while wielding a torch have a chance to apply burning.

I WOULD LOVE THAT!!!

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Posted by: OriOri.8724

OriOri.8724

Obviously lol it has the potential to be very overpowered, especially if we can force 3 clones at once to all use ambush attacks with mirage cloak. I understand why they didn’t go with this.

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Posted by: Maggotpez.7598

Maggotpez.7598

Has anyone else who also plays a PU(ish) style WvW build have troubles with condi removal now? Any advice? I normally depended on torch skills and arcane thievery. I’m assuming now I will have to drop a trait line for Inspiration.

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Posted by: zealex.9410

zealex.9410

Obviously lol it has the potential to be very overpowered, especially if we can force 3 clones at once to all use ambush attacks with mirage cloak. I understand why they didn’t go with this.

Scepter torch mirage that uses ambush skill= 50 stacks of burning lmao.

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Posted by: Zoltar MacRoth.7146

Zoltar MacRoth.7146

Has anyone else who also plays a PU(ish) style WvW build have troubles with condi removal now? Any advice? I normally depended on torch skills and arcane thievery. I’m assuming now I will have to drop a trait line for Inspiration.

There’s the option of the Sigil of Cleansing/Purity… or is that a waste of a sigil?

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Posted by: Angel de Lyssa.4716

Angel de Lyssa.4716

It is a good option, that mage phantasmal also inflict x1 extra burning. But I preferred something more to support damage or inflict extra condiction that synergy with other traits of mesmer.

For example:


The Pledge

Torch skills recharge a 20% more faster. Mage phantasmal also now inflict blind and vigor.

Blind (3s)
x2Burning (3s)
Fury (3s)
Vigor (3s)
Recharge reduced: 20%

Now with that rework, have a synergy with “Ineptitude” (inflict Confusion when you blind a foe) and get Vigor, for more dodge (The Mirage need dodge).

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Posted by: Zoltar MacRoth.7146

Zoltar MacRoth.7146

I don’t know what mirage will be like, but I’d like more burning options. I’ve been experimenting with a burning chrono recently and it’s actually not bad, despite the few burn sources. Fingers crossed for more.