Guild Wars 2

Profano.9514:

Oh, now because i have a mesmer, i can’t answer? Very funny.

1) There are more guardians and ele than mesmers in WvW
2) Ele do more ranged damage
3) Warriors do more melee damage

Nice try, you can troll better.

If you’re getting beaten by warriors I’ve got some bad news for you…

Pyroatheist.9031:

Idk, I think op might be right. I mean, if mesmers really were not overpowered, then it would mean that all the people complaining about them would have to be complete noobs, and we all know that definitely isn’t the case…

Again, your signature clearly indicates you’re primarily a Mesmer player. The number of people who only play Mesmer and seem to think the class is balanced far outweigh the players who have tried everything and know an OP class when they see it.

Also nah, I never take my warrior into WvW/PvP, without a healing/boon buddy they fall over too quickly.

Dolan.3071:

… All dramatics aside I’m getting real sick of only seeing Mesmers (and to a lesser degree, Thieves) in WvW.

Hits for nothing, the ports and evades are out of this world. Hell even just standing still to blend in with the clones threw a few people off, and only evade at the last second if a big hit was coming my way.

If you really think Mesmers are well balanced, then I ask you to take a look out in WvW, and ask yourself why almost everyone is a Mesmer (or Thief I suppose, the principle is the same.)

You mention our ports and evades. Yes, if we trait right we can become a VERY mobile class in side of a fight, very potentially even out doing D/D Eles. But if we get nerfed and are no longer the most mobile then D/D Eles will be up to bat and you will call nerf on them next. It is a never ending cycle. (So you don’t call me a Mesmer only player and say I am biased I have an Ele, Thief, Necro and War as well all of which I enjoy in WvW but just enjoy a little less than My Mini Mesmer Tank)

You mention the numbers of Mesmer you are seeing. What server you running up against? When I was still running with my last WvW guild (given it was know for its Mesmers) we would be asked to do all the portals and everything for other major guilds because no one else had the number of mesmer to do it and at max we could have only about 15-17 mesmers on and that is IF the leader forced everyone to jump on them, which he started trying to do and thus why I left. BUT NOT THE POINT.

At least on my server and the upper tier servers we are up against Guardians and Wars vastly out number any other class even Thieves.

It just seems like your experience has been drastically different than many other people.

You also said you confused some people by standing in your illusions. Those people are probably the worst players in the world. No one gets confused by clones anymore because it is way too easy to see which one is moving/dodging and which ones don’t have a second hand weapon.

Pretty much the point I am getting at is IF they nerf mesmers like you want them to then you will just move on to the next profession that you can’t beat and so on and so on. Balance in an MMO is a dream that not a single MMO has been able to accomplish yet. Every profession will be better at something than another one. To say that we Mesmer mains are exploiting a flawed system just makes you look like an idiot.

On the chance you are trolling well then you have no life. ^^

Dolan.3071:

Profano.9514:

Oh, now because i have a mesmer, i can’t answer? Very funny.

1) There are more guardians and ele than mesmers in WvW
2) Ele do more ranged damage
3) Warriors do more melee damage

Nice try, you can troll better.

If you’re getting beaten by warriors I’ve got some bad news for you…

Pyroatheist.9031:

Idk, I think op might be right. I mean, if mesmers really were not overpowered, then it would mean that all the people complaining about them would have to be complete noobs, and we all know that definitely isn’t the case…

Again, your signature clearly indicates you’re primarily a Mesmer player. The number of people who only play Mesmer and seem to think the class is balanced far outweigh the players who have tried everything and know an OP class when they see it.

Also nah, I never take my warrior into WvW/PvP, without a healing/boon buddy they fall over too quickly.

? I have an engi, guard, necro, Mesmer, thief, ele… out of that list the highest damager and condition applier is by far the thief… After that my engi with bomb kit does better condi damage than the Mesmer… The necro is survivable and the guard and ele can match Mesmer damage while being more survivable…All of this class have better condi removal than a Mesmer and yes in melee a warrior does more damage.. One AA attack chain from war does as much damage as a fully traited mindwrack… Without shatters mesmers suck…. Its true… for damage that is our best source… And if you look at other sources when people gripe and moan about mesmers it is our utility that they hate portal and time warp and such…

Uh, okay, one thing first: shatters aren’t our only source of burst/proper damage.

Now, it’s clear the OP doesn’t play tourneys or anything where balance can show itself better, if any of you want to do a bit of research you can find information on balance and “tiers” of profession at the moment.

Oh, by the way, the game is theoretically balanced based on 5v5, not 1v1.

i play a Mesmer and dont find it OP.
although i am not playing a fotm build – GS & glamours or some such…

frankly i think the AoE limits should be lifted on all attacks. they are already limited by their cast size. mindlessly zerging should be punished, not rewarded by nerfing all methods of dealing with it.

Dan.8709:

Oh, by the way, the game is theoretically balanced based on 5v5, not 1v1.

Meh, WoW players have been trying to tell that to WoW Whiners for 8 years, until finally the devs gave up and started doing 1-to-1 balance, too. :S
While I’d like to think better of the GW2 community, I doubt people will understand that professions neither can nor should be balanced on a single-entity basis.