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Posted by: venusiano.8246

venusiano.8246

Hi all,

I started playing mesmer at launch. After a few months I quitted playing for more than a year, and now I’m back in game.

I see many changes have taken place… for worse.

At lauch mesmer was one of the best classes. Now is one of the worst.

Several classic builds like confusion or reflection are a total crap now. They only viable build I find seems to be shatter, but still is not up pair with most classes. I’m having a very hard time soloing most other classes (except thief which has been uterly destroyed as a class even more than mesmer).

Correct me if I’m wrong but mesmer now seems to have at the same time the worse dps and the worse mobility in game (not considering portals), plus wearing cloth armor. Do you feel the same or am I totaly wrong?

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Posted by: Silverkey.2078

Silverkey.2078

Well in PvP, mesmers have actually the best (or one of the best) burst of all professions. Until last tuesday, they also had access to fairly long stealth, allowing it to use fully offensive stats while being able to sustain fairly well (i.e. kiting). And while they do not have the mobility of a thief, they do have top tier mobility. In particular, they have good vertical mobility which is a strong advantage on many maps.

So yes, we do lack build diversity (if you look at competitive tournaments which I recommend, you will see basically everyone using the same build, with maybe a few trading chaos for inspiration, and probably more in the future since stealth was nerfed this week), compared to for example guardian which can play both bunker and burst-burning at a top tier level. But this lack of diversity unfortunately hurts most classes, and mesmer is actually not the worst by far (thief has indeed been destroyed, elementalist while very strong is also forced into a bunkering role, etc…).

Confusion (condi shatter) is still a viable build, and is probably easier for non-top-tier player (like me) because it is somewhat more tanky and thus more forgiving. Some people will tell you it is actually OP, some UP, the only honest answer being that it is a good dueling build but not as good in team fights (though mesmer rarely shines in group). The main reason power shatter is used more often is that it bursts enemies faster, which suits more the role of the mesmer (offensive +1, very potent in duo with a thief).

Portal is a strong asset, on its own justifying using a mesmer in a fight, though it is not as strong in solo queue (since people will rarely take it, so you will use it alone).

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Posted by: Xyonon.3987

Xyonon.3987

I beg your pardon? The Mesmer has never ever been stronger than these days!

As for pvp, since the 23. july the whole gamemode became a bit … imbalanced. But the true balance there will most likely start with HoT. Even tough, in pvp the Mesmer became much stronger within the last few months.

And pve, oh boy, we even deal acceptable dps now. All our mantras have become AoE, mimic is an acutal useful skill and our traits no longer cripple us like when we were forced to trait into the vita / healing power traitline and missing all the offensive stats.

Mesmer finally became a strong on pair class and is no longer a pure portal and time warp [female dog].

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Posted by: venusiano.8246

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I beg your pardon? The Mesmer has never ever been stronger than these days!

As for pvp, since the 23. july the whole gamemode became a bit … imbalanced. But the true balance there will most likely start with HoT. Even tough, in pvp the Mesmer became much stronger within the last few months.

And pve, oh boy, we even deal acceptable dps now. All our mantras have become AoE, mimic is an acutal useful skill and our traits no longer cripple us like when we were forced to trait into the vita / healing power traitline and missing all the offensive stats.

Mesmer finally became a strong on pair class and is no longer a pure portal and time warp [female dog].

Mesmer stronger than ever? Mimic a useful skill? Wow, we must be playing different games then.

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Posted by: Mikkel.8427

Mikkel.8427

I beg your pardon? The Mesmer has never ever been stronger than these days!

As for pvp, since the 23. july the whole gamemode became a bit … imbalanced. But the true balance there will most likely start with HoT. Even tough, in pvp the Mesmer became much stronger within the last few months.

And pve, oh boy, we even deal acceptable dps now. All our mantras have become AoE, mimic is an acutal useful skill and our traits no longer cripple us like when we were forced to trait into the vita / healing power traitline and missing all the offensive stats.

Mesmer finally became a strong on pair class and is no longer a pure portal and time warp [female dog].

Mesmer stronger than ever? Mimic a useful skill? Wow, we must be playing different games then.

No, he is right. We are stronger than ever (at least since I’ve been around). That doesnt mean we dont have problems or dont require dev attention, though.

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Posted by: venusiano.8246

venusiano.8246

No, he is right. We are stronger than ever (at least since I’ve been around). That doesnt mean we dont have problems or dont require dev attention, though.

Well, when looking back at the initial Mesmer class all I see is that Time Warp attack speed was nerfed from 100% to 50%. Confusion damage was nerfed by 50%. Staff Chaos armor was nerfed not giving protection on skill use anymore. Blurred Frenzy not giving Invulnerability anymore. Phare Retreat not breaking cc anymore, etc… Sorry I’m just finding hard to see how Mesmer is better than ever.

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Posted by: Silverkey.2078

Silverkey.2078

Then you’re looking cherry picking. Illusionary Persona was made baseline, allowing shatter mesmer to choose their third line more freely (chaos, illusion and inspiration are all valid choices). I believe that is a major +.

And time warp also inflicts slow, which clearly makes up for the “nerf” to quickness. Also quickness is a boon, meaning we can extend its duration.

And anyway, just looking at numbers doesn’t make a build. The fact is mesmer is more than ever in many competitive teams. It is good!