Guild Wars 2

Hello Mesmers,

I’ve found myself recently playing my mesmer, less and less in WvW lately. Not because of any issues with the class, I know people have issues, but i still have a blast with it. more so because lately it seems like there are less and less mesmers in WvW. And with the smaller numbers, i am often asked to run things, that i don’t typically run, or have fun with. The other day when i was asked if had portal on my bar, and i said no, i was asked to change it. And i would not. And i was then called a “non compliant mesmer”. Quite a few people sent me tells, because i did not want to put portal on my bar to portal golems all day. At this point in the day, i was already using veil, which i don’t often use. I know some people like Osicat are awesome with Veil. But i simply do not like it. And i was using time warp, for said golems. I was also running centaur runes, which add to the zergs swiftness (but honestly they are more for me).

It seems to me, that if you are a mesmer in WvW, if you do not spec exactly for the benefit of others, then more and more lately, people act nasty about it. I already had dedicated a utility and my elite utility to help the zerg. If i had also chosen portal, i would have one utility i could use for myself.

I’m very aware that i can switch my utilities before combat, but i feel like that is in a perfect world. And so once combat begins, i feel locked into long cool down utilities, that a group may or may have a chance of using effectively. Meanwhile there charging in killing and rejoicing, having a grand old time. I feel there are few classes expected to give up so much, for the benefit of others. For me, and this is just my style, i would actually prefer to be a water ele, who is expected to drop water fields, because then i would feel like i’m part of the action. Not that i want to play an ele, i was just using an example of another class who is expected to run a certain set of abilities.

I know some of you are awesome, with portal. and veil. But i just don’t like them as much as my abilities. I enjoy my blink, and my decoy, etc etc. And normally i can ignore the “where are all the mesmers!”. But lately, i’m getting more and more tells and it’s turning me off to the class. It’s just less of a hassle to get on my engineer, and not have to worry about any of that nonsense.

Sorry if this is long, wanted to vent to my brethren.

I understand completly, people give me kitten on my ele for being an S/D ele and never even touching a staff. Thats why I personally don’t run with a zerg unless a friend/guildie is commanding.

I usually havoc and roam, which gives you a lot more freedom. I would portal golems and such too when there is a need, but since there isn’t often a need, I typically just swap out my cleanse mantra or blink for portal if I need to do it. Veils not really even that great imo unless its chained with other stealths, so I’d just swap veil for portal if people ask you to. And same with elites, since moa is honestly a bad elite in WvW, just use mass invis and switch to TW if a commander you trust wants it.

Sorry to hear other players are treating you with a bad attitude. I run solo a lot and glom onto zergs when I feel like it, or break off and do other things, and this gives me a lot of freedom to be supportive however I feel like. But, it could be a difference in server, guild, etc.
I agree that it’s unfair for others to decide how you should be playing. I doubt they would like to have the group backseat-building them.
I dropped this build in another thread recently but maybe another type of zerg support might be more rewarding for you: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/The-Zerg-Soldier-WvW-Build/first

Well it only gets worse the less people that play Mesmers.

Personally I dont give a rats kitten what other people think I should have as spec. I dont really see the pressure either – If I run with a commander that is backed by a guild (be it 5 or 20 people) I expect them to handle detailed tactics with veil and portal. And if its a random zerg with a solo commander, I dont expect him to use veil or portal anyway because he cant control it. If I run with my own guild, of course I’m willing to give up a little skills. I am their Mesmer after all and its alot of fun when they demand something more than just pushing 1.

Either way, only Theives, Rangers and Engineers are spared from this, incidently the 3 least usefull classes in WvW.

Guardians are pressured into a support role with stability, CC and heals. Necros are pushed into AoE murder machines. Warriors are hammerstunbots or gtfo. Elementalists only use is static field.

No one expect anything from a Thief and dead Rangers are more mourned by their pets than other players. Engineers… Well I forget what Engineers do on the battlefield. Engineer stuff I suppose?

guess anet didnt kill the trio healing , tank and dps after all ! They just given them new names ! 1 more lie

As an engineer you can either provide ranged aoe via grenade or if you are going to run with the melee train you can provide melee dmg via bombs. You will also provide alot of CC and conditions. I run almost exclusively with my guild now and I run elixir infused bombs and mines. I also provide reliable water fields, blasts, boon removal and tons of CC. Engineer are very useful in zergs.

Yea, I completely understand about that. Usually we have to be portal or veilbots which really isn’t fun for us to do. Usually people forget mesmers and what we do except for the 2 mentioned above. We also get the least amount of bags. Usually other classes so many bags and I am lucky enough to get 6 or 7. I do hope that we get another viable zerg spec. After the glamour nerf it hurts.