Guild Wars 2

What was the internal cooldown on the #9 trait in illusions, Blinding befuddlement, good for? Chaos armor prevented enemies to spam #1 or any other skill on the target with that trait, but shouldn’t it be pretty obvious you should only use your main skills on someone having chaos armor on? As chaos armor is unable to stack in any form and only having 33% chance to actually do something that already has been*nerfed* by 50%, I feel it’s being very underpowered.

I really wonder if there’s even a reasonable answer by Arenanet for this question, as there was barely anyone complaining about it being too strong, especially with the 50% confusion nerf.

It was to put control on glamor confusion mesmers in WvW.

Which is stupid because Glamour Mesmers are already neutered by the Confusion change. The change to Blinding Befuddlement needs to be reverted, it’s a typical case of (collateral) overnerfing.

Anet claims that they want to do small changes instead of blanket nerfs/buffs, well. They’re rather inconsistent about that.

Just look at Illusionary Membrane and tell me they’re thinking before changing/nerfing a skill. They killed blinding befuddlement and probably think its for the best lol anet.

glam did not just get neutered, they overnerfed confusion and when we were already down to nothing but weakness, the kicked us even more in the face with this ridiculous change of blinding befuddlement. most likely they guy that decided to destroy glam completely, played his permastealth thief and got killed by a glam mesmer. Not knowing that glam does no other dmg but confusion he decided to take an entire build away from mesmers.

Or… just maybe… confusion is a cheap condition that hit way to hard for such ease of access?

Vanthian.9267:

Or… just maybe… confusion is a cheap condition that hit way to hard for such ease of access?

Traited glamours inflicted blind, traited blind inflicted confusion. Confusion took the damage nerf. On top of that blind on glamour took a nerf via 4(or 5) second cooldown. So chances are a glamour mesmer is going to deal 1 blind, for 1 stack of confusion, at nerfed confusion damage.

Also, Anet tracks all trait/weapon etc usage, so they know what people are and are not using.

Vanthian.9267:

Or… just maybe… confusion is a cheap condition that hit way to hard for such ease of access?

ease of access?erm sry but every glam skill has a major cooldown and a glam mesmer does not deal other dmg that that.Sry but bleeding is way easier to inflict and lasts very long if traited. confusion is actually avoidable and doesn’t last very long, there fore is hard to stack by a mesmer, the blinding befuddlement nerf would have been nerf enough as it makes it even harder to stack.

Ross Biddle.2367:

It was to put control on glamor confusion mesmers in WvW.

Confusing enchantment was the trait that caused problems with the confusion stacking in mass WvW, yet, they didn’t even touch that trait.
Blinding befuddlement is much more effective in solo PvP and barely noticeable in mass WvW.

They could also go for a 33% confusion nerf, like retaliation, and change the confusing enchantment trait.

The wierdest thing of all I dont understand is that they kept on buffing confusion builds for mesmers a few patches back and then once people started mass QQ on the forum about being it op they nerf it on 2 ways, making it still viable in mass WvW but not in solo pvp, which is pretty much the opposite of what they wanted.

Vanthian.9267:

Or… just maybe… confusion was a cheap condition that hit way to hard for such ease of access?

Corrected it for you.
Yes it was overpowered, but it’s the only condition you can control and double nerfing it was just over the top. 50% damage reduction was already out of their minds, however, I could understand it if they didnt touch Blinding befuddlement, by just making an easy solution to nerf glamor builds in mass WvW.

It’s like when people QQ’ed about heartseeker. It took them months to do a nerf, yet it wasn’t nerfed on 2 ways. They could’ve removed the leap combo and the damage of the skill. Or maybe reduce the leap range and the damage. However, they rather only changed, not even directly lower it, instead of over-nerfing it. So why does confusion needs to be taken down so hard with 1 patch?

It just doesn’t make sense, like almost every decision Arenanet makes these days.

Arenanet, I beg you, please give a reasonable argument for the nerf of Blinding Befuddlement.

Vanthian.9267:

Or… just maybe… confusion is a cheap condition that hit way to hard for such ease of access?

Okay fine, then remove the vuln on my staff auto and give me some poison. Otherwise almost all my cond damage is from confusion. Or maybe give me a skill that forces the enemy to attack? Confusion is the only ailment that you can actively avoid damage from while suffering from it.

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Seriously This is not fund for a scepter torch Mesmer… we have so many traits dealing with blind and confusion and Anet is just like IDC! This is why I am no longer using the staff in my condition build because the chaos armor procs aren’t worth the CD… GOOD JOB ANET. Hey lets all play BM rangers they are unkillable.

jportell.2197:

Seriously This is not fund for a scepter torch Mesmer… we have so many traits dealing with blind and confusion and Anet is just like IDC! This is why I am no longer using the staff in my condition build because the chaos armor procs aren’t worth the CD… GOOD JOB ANET. Hey lets all play BM rangers they are unkillable.

Are you sure that mesmer have that many abilities to apply blind

chaos armor is bugged and only applies confusion

torch #4 is one attack

signet of midnight

loseridoit.2756:

jportell.2197:

Seriously This is not fund for a scepter torch Mesmer… we have so many traits dealing with blind and confusion and Anet is just like IDC! This is why I am no longer using the staff in my condition build because the chaos armor procs aren’t worth the CD… GOOD JOB ANET. Hey lets all play BM rangers they are unkillable.

Are you sure that mesmer have that many abilities to apply blind

chaos armor is bugged and only applies confusion

torch #4 is one attack

signet of midnight

Chaos armor isnt bugged?

Anyway:

1. 2 scepter does blind when released
2. 4 torch does blind to nearby foes
3. All glamor skills traited do blind
4. Chaos armor does blind

The nerf is based on chaos armor mostly, since thats the only way to spam the blind effect, causing fast raising confusion stacks. But hey, Anet wants you to spam that #1 skill eventhough your enemy got chaos armor on. No need to watch your screen, just faceroll and everything will be alright.

loseridoit.2756:

jportell.2197:

Seriously This is not fund for a scepter torch Mesmer… we have so many traits dealing with blind and confusion and Anet is just like IDC! This is why I am no longer using the staff in my condition build because the chaos armor procs aren’t worth the CD… GOOD JOB ANET. Hey lets all play BM rangers they are unkillable.

Are you sure that mesmer have that many abilities to apply blind

chaos armor is bugged and only applies confusion

torch #4 is one attack

signet of midnight

Plus scepter block, magic bullet and traited glamours.

Edit: ninjad. xD

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Really, gonna bump this till I get an answer. Getting sick of Arenanet not being able to take 5 mins of their time to explain why they nerf things for no reason.

I think its funny hoe confusion used to be useless.. Then they buffed it… And now tey nerfed it into nothingness a 1 second cooldown on confusion enchantments would be enough in my oppinion… Also, confusion is the only condition that has a very simple counter anyone can do at any time: do nothing, take 0% damage, its quite *under*powered if you ask me, and now its completel ly uesless.
Sometimes i think arenanet balancers have no idea what theyre doing… They should talk with mesmers who actually play the game instead of nerfing confusion into nothingness in a single patch….
I wish arenanet talked more

Yes… I really wonder where the customer service/feedback is when they can’t even respond in their own forums to player concerns… We want concise feedback on what they are doing about issues not just “We are looking into it” which has been their response to mesmer bugs for months.

i think anet all plays thieves and confusion bombs used to be a good counter vs 22222 spammers so thats why the nerfed it to protect their golden class. i miss confusion and atm it is a joke to even try to use it . 25 tacks is a joke! i get destroyed by bleed stacks if my cleansers are down but hey lets nerf confusion to kitten so the thieves don’t have to think anymore.