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Posted by: EthanLightheart.9168

EthanLightheart.9168

I’m deceived that u didnt have a look at pve at which the greatswordmesmer now is very weak again compared to other classes.

Find a solution please, maybe slpit pvp /pve skills

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Posted by: ramorambo.6701

ramorambo.6701

split pvp /pve skills

This would be a very good solution.

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Posted by: SteepledHat.1345

SteepledHat.1345

They seem to go with whatever changes are most called for on the SPvP forums. Honestly, it’s like lock step with them. That makes it hard to balance. Balancing PvP and PvE are very different things, I’d think. Not sure why they won’t just split them

“Failure to remain calm is the sign of a weak mind.”

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Posted by: Nozdrum.2894

Nozdrum.2894

I understand this patch in the context of pvp. But for pve you just lose so much group-potential, now I can’t really buff my group well anymore so I am going back to full-berserk mode. Just brain-afk autoattack mode since I don’t have anything useful to do. Exceptions are bosses where I have to use feedback – so yeah every 40 seconds I will go come back from firefox to the game.

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Posted by: Deviija.7869

Deviija.7869

Many of us have been asking for that.

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Posted by: Moddo.7105

Moddo.7105

Funny thing is all nerfs thiefs got where s/tpvp only.

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Posted by: Noid.2871

Noid.2871

EthanLightheart.9168

split pvp /pve skills

HELL NO! That was the worst thing that happened to GW1, and is right after ascended items on my “omg, they’re gonna break the game” scare list. It’s the perfect excuse to not balance PvE at all and just allow stupid overpowered kitty to exist. Ursan, Cry, Shadowform, for example. And because they were PvE-only, it took them a YEAR each to notice they were ruining the game and do something about it.
(Not implying Shadowform is fine now, but it was nerfed at least. And SoS is still unfixed, afaik.)

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Posted by: ramorambo.6701

ramorambo.6701

EthanLightheart.9168

split pvp /pve skills

HELL NO! That was the worst thing that happened to GW1, and is right after ascended items on my “omg, they’re gonna break the game” scare list. It’s the perfect excuse to not balance PvE at all and just allow stupid overpowered kitty to exist. Ursan, Cry, Shadowform, for example. And because they were PvE-only, it took them a YEAR each to notice they were ruining the game and do something about it.
(Not implying Shadowform is fine now, but it was nerfed at least. And SoS is still unfixed, afaik.)

Actually splitting pvp and pve is the perfect excuse to have everything more balanced to the context they are inserted, that’s a good example, SS was op in pvp but good in pve, where mesmers aren’t good like others classes.
Balancing skills so they are good in both pve/pvp are harder than having skill only to be balanced on one of the two side and as we can see Anet is not capable of doing balanced skills on both sides.

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Posted by: Noid.2871

Noid.2871

ramorambo.670

pve, where mesmers aren’t good like others classes.

Sorry, but the only response I can think of is “l2p”. Mesmers are widely considered 2nd tier PvE (with warriors, below the op guardians).

as we can see Anet is not capable of doing balanced skills on both sides.

How is SS now unbalanced for PvE?

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Posted by: Levetty.1279

Levetty.1279

ramorambo.670

pve, where mesmers aren’t good like others classes.

Sorry, but the only response I can think of is “l2p”. Mesmers are widely considered 2nd tier PvE (with warriors, below the op guardians).

No…no they are not.

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Posted by: TimeBomb.3427

TimeBomb.3427

EthanLightheart.9168

split pvp /pve skills

HELL NO! That was the worst thing that happened to GW1, and is right after ascended items on my “omg, they’re gonna break the game” scare list. It’s the perfect excuse to not balance PvE at all and just allow stupid overpowered kitty to exist. Ursan, Cry, Shadowform, for example. And because they were PvE-only, it took them a YEAR each to notice they were ruining the game and do something about it.
(Not implying Shadowform is fine now, but it was nerfed at least. And SoS is still unfixed, afaik.)

Do note that they are able to and have already split certain abilities for PvE and sPvP. They seem to try not to do it that much, though, which is good.

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Posted by: Nuka Cola.8520

Nuka Cola.8520

Since the game was released not a single patch was suitable for a mesmer in pve (excluding SS because that lasted what? 2 weeks and for shatter spam builds ONLY). Anet don’t give a kitten about how mesmers are in pve and that shows.

Fact: every Thief tells you to “l2p” when the subject is to nerf stealth.

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Posted by: Rainu.6871

Rainu.6871

I’m all for a split. Different types of combat needs different styles and having the same skills for both is just bad design. PvE has got “stupid” enemies with large health pools while pvp has got more intelligent enemies but with lesser health.

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Posted by: plasmacutter.2709

plasmacutter.2709

I’m deceived that u didnt have a look at pve at which the greatswordmesmer now is very weak again compared to other classes.

Find a solution please, maybe slpit pvp /pve skills

How about WAIT AFTER FIXING A BUG THAT CAUSES 100% EXTRA DAMAGE BEFORE NERFING SOMETHING ELSE

Every other AAA mmo is more deliberate about their balance process.

They nerfed the ever loving bejesus out of might stacking without even waiting to see the impact of mind wrack NOT doing 100% extra damage.

My mesmer is now a bank toon.

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Posted by: Winds.3087

Winds.3087

Sorry, but the only response I can think of is “l2p”. Mesmers are widely considered 2nd tier PvE (with warriors, below the op guardians).

Players are considered 1st, 2nd and 134th tier PvE(that 80 guardian fella who died from deer, I know you’re reading this :p), not professions.

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Posted by: haviz.1340

haviz.1340

Sorry, but the only response I can think of is “l2p”. Mesmers are widely considered 2nd tier PvE (with warriors, below the op guardians).

Players are considered 1st, 2nd and 134th tier PvE(that 80 guardian fella who died from deer, I know you’re reading this :p), not professions.

Sorry, but you can’t reflect projectiles on necro.

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Posted by: Winds.3087

Winds.3087

Sorry, but you can’t reflect projectiles on necro.

Master death shroud then.

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Posted by: haviz.1340

haviz.1340

Sorry, but you can’t reflect projectiles on necro.

Master death shroud then.

Heh, that joke is used way too often.

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Posted by: Iruwen.3164

Iruwen.3164

PvE and PvP enemies are so different that it’s straight out impossible to balance both without splitting skills. There’s just one problem: WvW, with both PvE and PvP elements.

Iruwen Evillan, Human Mesmer on Drakkar Lake

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Posted by: Ravion Hawk.4736

Ravion Hawk.4736

Head of the Order of the Iron Ravens [OoIR]
Lady Alexis Hawk – Main – Necromancer
Ravion Hawk – Warrior

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Posted by: Navi.7142

Navi.7142

Yeah. Right now I just wanted to link everyone there, too. Hmmm…