Guild Wars 2

Hello frands! Vee Wee here, #1 Engi NA and world first rank 80!

Hello my frands! Vee Wee has recently taken an interest in Mesmer and tried unsuccessfully to play shatter in PvP! It’s hard my frands! It’s hard! Well Vee Wee won’t give up! And Vee Wee enjoys playing condi builds! Here is Vee Wee’s post patch condi build for PvP! Please give Vee Wee some constructive criticism my frands!

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fhAQNArdWlknpUtlpxRNcrNSpBdyksFUXm00USGgHA-TZRHwABOBAJLDI4IAA4RAEa/BA

First Vee Wee could not decide on the runes! Vee Wee will probably use Krait because it gives a huge bonus to bleeds and you can proc the 6 piece bonus without actually using Mass Invis! But Vee Wee also thinks Nightmare is a good choice because it adds extra time for confusions and torments, and bleeds too! Vee Wee was also iffy on the sigils! For fragile Shatter mesmers, Energy Sigil is a must! For tanky condi Mesmers with lots of blocks and blinds and ample vigor uprtime already, Vee Wee thinks Vee Wee can get away with taking Geomancy and Doom for both weapon sets! But Vee Wee is unsure! Gosh Vee Wee wishes there was a test server!

Wahoo! Bye frands!

Hello Vee Wee! I love how you always introduce yourself in every post. Welcome to the wonderful world of Mesmer! I hope you enjoy your stay.

As for the build, I think it looks pretty solid. I really wish that these builds could afford to go 4 into dueling for Deceptive Evasion (in my opinion is the best all-around trait for Mesmers) but alas.

Most others will tell you that sc/focus + staff is the best weapon set for this build. However, I’m biased and I don’t really like the focus in PvP. Pistol gives you the ability to interrupt as well as secondary DPS via iDuelist.

Hope you have fun

u gonna have a bad time w a shatterbuild wich doesnt have IP or DE

Hello frands! Vee Wee here, #1 Engi NA and world first rank 80!

Hello my frand Noah! Thanks for the quick reply!

Yes Vee Wee was very sad Vee Wee could not put Deceptive Evasion into this build! It’s thimply amazing for shatter builds! Vee Wee’s reasoning was that Scepter auto attack would be kind of a replacer! Obviously it’s not nearly as good as Deceptive Evasion! But it’s better than nothing!

Vee Wee also considered offhand pistol! But being a condi build Vee Wee doesn’t think iDuelist will do that much damage! And since there is no Sharper Images in this build, Vee Wee doesn’t think iDuelist will be that good! Meanwhile the focus also has cc and you get swiftness! Being an Engi main, Vee Wee has been spoiled by the effortless permanent swiftness that we get, and refuses to run any build without some form of movement speed buff! It’s why Vee Wee did not take torch when torch seems like the obvious choice for condi builds!

Wahoo! Bye frands!

even with all the torment tears.. my condi build when patch comes out will not even have a scepter in it.. wierd ehh? i think people are really miss reading this ready up or just dont know what its like to play an actual good condi spec for mesmer.. pu is not good. shattering clones that you use to produce your condis then expecting to auto attack them back with scepter is not good.

Dear frand Vee Wee, because you aren’t being a PU scrub and are going for a condi shatter build, we can still be frands!

Anyway yeah, I’d probably go with pistol and 4 in dueling over 4 in inspiration, however since memser has left me nothing but a bitter taste in my mouth, I probably won’t ever play it ahahaha. But Condition-shatter seems interesting as long as you do more than autoattack..

just saying, scepter auto for clone production is a rly terrible way to go, its too slow etc, and it can still miss and so on

iduelist is good for conditions if u pick the minor major trait in dueling, the bleeds stack up pretty nicely

the torch phantasm is useless for both power and condi builds, its just used from range so we can have smth to shatter

i once heard pyro loved iMage for no particular reason, so u might look into it!

Hello frands! Vee Wee here, #1 Engi NA and world first rank 80!

Vee Wee is a PvPer and would never play PU seriously for the same reason good Thieves don’t play Shadow Arts! Stealth as your primary focus in PvP is no bueno!

My frand zaxon made a good point! Vee Wee thinks that scepter and staff clones left alive would have more condi application than shattering them! And then if you trait condi clone death that’s even more condi application!

Vee Wee doesn’t think Torch is that bad! Burning plus condi removal and Illusionary Elasticity on the phantasm seems pretty good!

Thanks for helping Vee Wee frands!

Wahoo! Bye frands!

Wyrden.4713:

i once heard pyro loved iMage for no particular reason, so u might look into it!

D:

Lies and slander! I’ve made entire posts dedicated to exploring how iMage is one of the weakest skills in the entire game

Right, so I typed up a big response then accidentally deleted it all, so I’m gonna be editing this thing in piecemeal.

Torment Shatter: Isn’t good. The shatters can be dodged, blocked, clones can be cleaved down en route or before they even are shattered, there’s simply so many ways to counter it easily. Compare that to clone deaths, which can’t be blocked, can’t be dodged, cleaving them down is the point of it, and the aoe spread is close to the size of a capture point, so they’re hard to avoid.

Runes: Don’t take krait, as you can’t really use them well. MI is on a 90s cooldown, so it’s just not that useful. I prefer nightmare or undead. Undead runes are just a flat boost to all of your condition damage, and nightmare are a flat boost to all of your condition durations. Pick which one seems to suit you better.

Torch: Torch is a bit of a problem weapon. Without the trait, it’s an offhand with only one skill. However, the prestige truly is an amazing skill. It has stealth, aoe blind, aoe burning, and a blast finisher. The iMage, on the other hand, is a pile of kitten. It’s slow, uses a bouncing attack that doesn’t bounce properly, often misses, and only applies low duration stacks of confusion.

Now, if you trait the torch, it becomes better, as the iMage is a condition removal both on summon and if the bolt hits you.

Deceptive Evasion: Is absolutely essential. You can not run an effective shatter build or clone death build without DE. Clone generation on weapons simply isn’t fast enough. What will end up happening is that you’ll get your clones cleaved down, and then you’ll be stuck unable to do anything for a while. Shatters really require full clones to work, but you can’t produce these clones rapidly. The fastest you could make illusions would be casting a phantasm and then using phase retreat I suppose….and that’s only 2, pretty slow, and then you have to shatter immediately to not have them killed. It simply doesn’t work.

Sigils: So since you’re taking DE, it means that energy sigils are even more important. Dodges for a mesmer aren’t simply defense, they’re also a means to offense through clone generation. Double energy sigils are required, and then I like to take double doom just for that consistent poison generation, but that’s really up to you.

Boon stripping and Condition Removal: Since you’re not going to be shatter condie, shattered concentration no longer works. So instead of taking null field, you should take the pDisenchanter. This is a 20s cd phantasm that attacks every 4 seconds with a 5 target bouncing projectile removing 2 boons from enemies and 2 conditions from allies. It’s basically an all-purpose boon strip/condition cleanse that works pretty much anywhere with a bit of skill for placement.

Mobility: Since you’re going 20 into dueling for DE, you’ll also take far reaching manipulations to extend your blink range to 1200. With a 1200 range blink, you can get from one point to another nearly instantaneously if you know the proper places to blink at. This solves most of the mesmer mobility problems without the use of a focus, allowing you to take torch. If, however, you still want that focus, it’s not a huge problem. Focus has a nice aoe pull and the phantasm can provide a projectile-safe bubble, so it’s still useful.