Veil + iDuelist for great condi removal?

Veil + iDuelist for great condi removal?

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Posted by: keenlam.4753

keenlam.4753

Q:

Hi guys,
Given Veil is now a light field, has anyone attempted to use traited iDuelist to shoot through Veil to get 8 times condition removal. I heard that traited pistol has 100% projectile finisher on iDuelist 8 shots. Would the removal effect work on the player or just on iDuelist himself?

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Posted by: Hexxen.7216

Hexxen.7216

A:

They clean condition from those in the path of the bullets not the caster. ^^ I tried it out a bit but the CD even traited is just too long to use for condition removal.

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Posted by: keenlam.4753

keenlam.4753

Thanks, Hexxen I didn’t know that.

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Posted by: AsteriskCGY.5931

AsteriskCGY.5931

Whirl from iWarden seems to be more effective.

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Posted by: eldenbri.1059

eldenbri.1059

I did some limited testing. It seemed like I was able to get conditions removed standing next to the duelist and both of us close to the veil.

I have the duelist discipline trait, so in theory, each duelist shot is a 100% proc chance as a projectile. Without it, the chance is only 20% per shot I think.

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Posted by: keenlam.4753

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@eldenbri: so if it does indeed proc 100% with traited pistol, it’s basically a full cleanse every 90 seconds (or 72 seconds if traited) because, realistically, I don’t think people can stack more than 8 conditions on you.

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Posted by: Hexxen.7216

Hexxen.7216

It would be a very good almost full cleans. Do not underestimate Necros. The sad thing is that even though a full cleans is great they will stack them up right after again anyway so it isn’t super.

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Posted by: eldenbri.1059

eldenbri.1059

I never tested it with eight conditions on me…

There’s both positioning and timing that you need to get right. I think I would find it difficult to pull off a full eight condition removal. Often when I have a ton of conditions on me, I also have cripple/immobilize/chill.

But I’m hopeful that I can get better at using it. I’m trying to make Veil a standard part of my build.

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Posted by: Hexxen.7216

Hexxen.7216

Veil is a part of my build but I don’t use Pistol. The build I use Pistol with I don’t use Veil. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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Posted by: Aberrant.6749

Aberrant.6749

It would be a very good almost full cleans. Do not underestimate Necros. The sad thing is that even though a full cleans is great they will stack them up right after again anyway so it isn’t super.

Same thing for cond eng… both can spam conds all day long.

However this isn’t a bad way to get a full cleanse if you’re taking these other things anyways (not atypical for a phant mes to already have these things).

I wouldn’t build specifically for this though. It’s quite an investment when you could get the same basic effect from a null field (as well as strip boons).

I don’t think they intended for idualist to be a 100% finisher (it’s listed as a bug on the wiki, hasn’t always been one, nor do I remember ever seeing it added in patch notes) and it’ll eventually get patched out.

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Posted by: eldenbri.1059

eldenbri.1059

@Hexxen for what it’s worth – this is the build where I use pistol and veil together

http://bit.ly/19cwK0i

I find it really fun in WvW for anything from solo to zerg

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Posted by: keenlam.4753

keenlam.4753

Thanks guys for your comments
I was actually putting together a somewhat bunker build based on retaliation and interrupt traits, so just trying to take advantage of the changes in the latest patch.
Here’s a link to the build for your interest: http://tinyurl.com/nxljf2o
Sword #4 got buff, so happy. Still deciding between Focus and Pistol for 2nd set OH.