Guild Wars 2

A warrior friend and I try to take a camp while enemies keep coming in. I hope you find it entertaining. My apologies to the necro for our bailout…

Besides just wanting to share what was a fun fight for me, I thought it might be helpful to show because I’m running a PU build (phantasm based with decoy and mass invis as the only stealth skills). This is totally different than PU condi builds.

Given all the PU conversation, I think this video is helpful in illustrating a few points:
- the stealth skills are probably the bigger impact than the PU trait – but I think they are supposed to feel impactful – they are an elite skill and a utility
- most of the outcome of these fights comes from the lack of armor and health of the opponents (and the fact that they come one or two at a time) than what PU does
- I would rate our skill level as average (my warrior friend plays less than I do, but I see many places where I’m screwing up and a few where I’m doing something helpful) – so PU isn’t letting us just passively wipe out the opponents
- PU does get me a couple of blocks in five minutes of fighting

Yeah, well done
Btw how do you get that image quality on Youtube ( encoding and such…) ? My videos get heavily “nerfed” when I post them T T.

Good fight, just wonder, you have 70 stacks of food and 76 of oil but use non? saving if for better day?

/Osicat

Hi Redg – the quality on my first one was pretty bad as well. For this one, I recorded in Fraps and then I did an HD output in Sony Vegas studio at 60 frames per second. That made a 1GB file for the five minutes, but the quality is much better.

Osi – thx – I laughed when I went back and saw that. That’s a bunch of crit chance and crit damage lost. My friend and I were doing fights and then stopping to review the video. So before this fight, we had been spending about 20 minutes talking about staying on our targets and communicating with each other about the fight. So my food/oil ran out, and I just forgot to use it… That’s one of the best things about recording video – I can go back and see what I did wrong.

Thanks for the tips Eldenbri ^^
I’ll try it this weekend !

Going to have to give scepter a try after watching that. I run a very similar set up.

Nice vid

Not really trying to be mean, but the fight might have been fun but honestly it doens’t prove anything.
Ok, you are at a camp with npcs “disturbing” you, but the fight is always 2v1 and 3v1 until the end when more enemies come at the same time. And you run.
If your aim was to show that PU can work without relying on heavy use of stealth well, it may have succeded but the thing is that stealthing wasn’t really needed since no one ever focused you.

Overall a fun video but that’s all

His point may be that PU isn’t god mode for the average mesmer player, as he describes himself. Thus the complaints about PU outside the Mesmer forums are possibly coming from the people he kills in this video and that in reality they are dying because they are terrible players not because they got hit by an OP PU Mesmer.

To the OP if you are using Disenchanter for cleanse its bounces will land on your allies as well so even though the nade Engi wasn’t focusing you (or anything in general) if you had got the Disenchanter up at the start its bounces may have landed on your Warrior (it also strips boons which you will find useful against more competent players). When you did finally cast him it was about 3 seconds before the engi got stomped which is a waste as the phantasm will then die, the cooldown is low but still casting it on one of the NPCs to help deal with the scouts poison/cripple/blinds would have been more help.

Finally stay and fight unless the odds are crazy (10+ vs 2) you’ll become a much better player from killing a few people and then dying/running, you’ll learn to better manage cooldowns, to really perfect a joint burst, how to ensure stomps while outnumbered and when to backout, regroup and re-engage/bail.

Thanks for the feedback!

Yeah, I may be generous when I call us average players. This is definitely not a video like Osi’s or Joe’s where my jaw hits the floor, and I just tell myself that I have a lot to learn.

It was a fun fight for my friend and I because it was a little chaotic and, in the end, it was a “success”. The opponents make a lot of critical errors. My apologies if you were one of the opponents – this isn’t to make fun of you – I have died hundreds of times worse than what happened to you here.

Lord Jim, you are totally correct. My point was that PU does not determine the fate of this battle. That trait barely affects the outcome – stealth makes a difference in getting away for sure – but not the PU trait.

I see tons of failures in my game play when I watch the video. The Disenchanter cast is one. Forgetting to use consumables is another. Here’s a handful of the other goofs:
- I don’t notice the Engi early enough. I only know he’s there because my friend tells me.
- I lose track of the Mesmer. Correspondingly, I eat the full Blurred Frenzy (I do manage to blink away from the Mind Wrack and decoy to reposition)
- We attack the warrior when he’s using his “walking dead” downed skill. I thought he rallied from killing something, but I just missed the giant red icon
- I fail to use the scepter block a couple times
- I run over the mines from the dead engi by the gate (twice!)
- We fight at the gate and don’t move back into the camp even though we’ve just flipped it. Then we wait too long to disengage. Then we go different directions when we disengage (and we don’t tell the necro – sorry about that Professor – I can’t type in chat during that time and we weren’t on voice together)
- I actually break off before I get the rez done on the warrior and have to come back…

I think we could have held that camp if we had just pulled back and fought better. We probably could have even circled back after the rez and at least put up a good fight. As it turns out, my friend and I were actually trying to do a bunch of fights and then stop to talk about them. So we had been taking a break after each fight to review the video while the fight was still fresh in our heads. So we probably ran away too early… but that’s why

Thx again – I love the feedback. I know I can get a lot better. My main point is that PU is not “god mode” for average players like me.