Guild Wars 2

So I decided to be creative and try and celestial hybrid shatter build, which in theory was a pretty cool concept imo but when I take it into pvp, it does absolutely nothing to other people. Every single person I fight pretty much just roflstomps me any time I try to fight them. (I’m not having trouble dealing with condis btw) Seems that even with all the damage potential (I’ve measured it getting up to 20 might stacks on it’s own before) this build and others I’ve tried can’t do jack- squat against other players. So please tell me: Does Mesmer suck that much? Is it just the build sucks? Do I really need THAT much more practice to do something? HELP PLEASE!

Build:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fhAQJARWlknpMtNqxINcrNCrBh6rslfSyBEgSWhrB-TJRGwAAuEAJeCAg2fYZZAA

Thanks for all input, I really love the idea of Mesmer but it’s just not giving me results anywhere

I believe celesial stats doesn’t work that well with shatter, as most celesial builds rely on constant pressure, while shatter is for a quick burst

My hope was to get some strong direct pressure from the crits in direct shatter (can get 3-5k crits depending on stacks) and then at the same time apply condis with the shatter while switching to staff to start applying more condis and follow a constant switching between damage types to maximize the damage done with the build. Is there a better way to do this?

I’ll test ur build after i get home, see if theres anything i can change

As a Shatter you should be running berserker or assassin statted armor/weapons (in pve/wvw). It is super glass, but you will get the most burst for it. In fact, someone did write a very long thread about how Assassin stats were better, crit-wise, for shatter.

For pvp, I am not sure if Assassin has been released or made available for us to use yet. Anet has been rather slow getting all of the new stat combinations to us for pvp. You will want to use berserker for shatter. Shatter is not a strong condition build, you will get some conditions stacked with it, but they will not be supplying much pressure on your target. You will need an entirely different build for that.

So, final verdict: It is your build that sucks and without watching you play your mesmer in combat, you may need additional practice on your mesmer. No doubt Fay or someone else will pop along and tell you that Celestial is straight up BUTT for mesmer to use and why would you even think of that. Moreover, mesmer is not meant for might stacking.

If you want a condition build you might want to try PU or CI Lockdown. PU is super tanky, has high condition pressure, but is not at all bursty and will not apply damage pressure like shatter will. CI runs with the same stat set up as PU, but is more bursty. It can supply good damage pressure and moderate condition pressure.

All classes take time to learn.

Thanks for the information. I had hoped I’d be able to get away from the full glkittenter I was using. Oh well, back to the assassin ammy.

I run a version of this when I get bored with full-condition builds. My suggestion:

1- drop the GS, pick up Sc/Pistol
2- add phantasmal fury instead of manipulation range
3- consider doom sigils
4- consider/play around with empowered illusions

Your problem is that you’re trying to run this as a hybrid with celestial stats. This doesn’t work on mesmer. Yes, you can burst yourself up to very high might amounts temporarily, but you can’t actually maintain that much might reliably, and you have very few cover boons for protecting it from boon strips. The majority of the time you’ll be going around with 10-15 might, and that’s really just not enough to make both your condies and your crits hit hard.

Shatter builds are also just conceptually ill-suited to celestial hybrids. Celestial hybrids are usually very tanky with a lot of sustain. This allows them the time to really build and maintain that might, as well as making use of the more defensive stats that come along with that celestial amulet. Shatter builds are not tanky and have poor sustain.

Combine those two issues and you’ve got a build that will get roflstomped every time.

sorry just to correct the misinformation.

Shatter DPS – Bezerker is best.

Reflect DPS – Assassins is best (this is important in dungeons)

Sinister is next in line for a Hybrid type of build but with only exotic stats atm and no presence in sPvP… it’s also going to be heavily glass and gimic for a time…

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and Fay said it well enough but just to echo it.

Celestial stats shine bright on classes that already excel at doing everything well and nothing Great, but hinder classes that have to specialize by granting useless points into trees that you cant or wont tap into consistently at any given time.

a Mesmer that tries to become a jack of all trades generally ends up dead , making a new build, or re-rolling…