Whats the Staff/SP - shatter build everyone is talking about?

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Posted by: Valandil.8152

Valandil.8152

Q:

Can anyone link me a good Staff/SP – Shatter build, I tried some but doesn’t think they work as good as intended.

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Posted by: MrMacAndCheese.3907

MrMacAndCheese.3907

I don’t know what everyone’s been talking about, but it all works great. There isn’t one good build. Learn the class.

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Posted by: Osicat.4139

Osicat.4139

several builds and several oppinions about witch one is best and probobly several is right. 10-30-0-0-30, 20-20-0-0-30 and 0-20-20-0-30 is common, al viable. Only thing almost al use is the 0-0-0-0-30 as it build around sword,phantasm and 4 clone shatters

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Posted by: crewthief.8649

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I use the 10-30-0-0-30, works like a charm. There are multiple viable Staff + Sword/Pistol shatter builds, however. I’d agree with Osicat, that the inclusion of Illusionary Persona is almost a must for a shatter build though.

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Posted by: Darnis.4056

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I feel like 20 20 0 0 30 is probably the best at what it does, Faster sword cooldowns, Massive boon Removal are just too good to give up for anything else.

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Posted by: Delofasht.4231

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It’s dependant on play style and what you think you’ll be doing mostly. For instance, for solo holding a point I think that 0/20/20/0/30 is a very strong Shatter build that maximizes it’s usage of defensive shatters while still being able to burst a weaker opponent down hard. The Staff CD reductions give more survivability and often you will just kite people away from the node you are at, alternatively for holding that point since you aren’t taking the pistol CD reduction trait you can run a focus and just Into the Void them off a point, follow up with swap to staff for AoE on the point discouraging them standing on it, etc etc etc.

For taking a point or running with a team I feel that 20/20/0/0/30 is stronger as it has more damage and will still be able to use the shatters defensively in a pinch. Utilities vary from build to build. All are good, just depends on what you like to do. I tend to find myself trolling the opposing team often, just grab their attention and use the more defensive build to abuse Phase Retreat, Blink, Decoy, Null Field, and Dodges along with Energy runes for weapon swapping and focus to just kite the enemy team around the map while my team does all the work. Only works against try hards, aka most sPvP players.

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Posted by: Kaaji.9480

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This is it: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fgAQNAsaGGRQ9Q7AvvjkiWj1KpY2uQA;TsAg0CnoqxUjoGbNuak1ssYQx0CA

Note that I got this from a rank 50+ Mesmer who from, as far as I can tell, basically does 100% Tournaments and sPVP (at least every time I’m on). He swears by Divinity and Fire/Air and after testing it quite a bit I’d have to agree.

Note that a lot of people tend to forget just how powerful Illusionary Persona is in that F2-F4 work even without any illusions up, so if you need a daze or an invulnerability you can use F2-F4 without any illusions up. This makes Illusionary Invigoration all that much more powerful.

With all the shatters at your disposal and with S/P + Staff, you have basically max offensive with a large amount of defensive. I’ve tried S/P + GS but it just doesn’t compare for sPVP.

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Posted by: Temariah.9372

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Your link didn’t work for me, Kaaji.

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Posted by: funky fat thighs.1267

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Copy and paste it. Hardly ever works by clicking :S

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Posted by: Temariah.9372

Temariah.9372

Almost all links work for me by clicking. This is the first that hasn’t. =P

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Posted by: ilJumperMT.4871

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This is it: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fgAQNAsaGGRQ9Q7AvvjkiWj1KpY2uQA;TsAg0CnoqxUjoGbNuak1ssYQx0CA

Note that I got this from a rank 50+ Mesmer who from, as far as I can tell, basically does 100% Tournaments and sPVP (at least every time I’m on). He swears by Divinity and Fire/Air and after testing it quite a bit I’d have to agree.

Note that a lot of people tend to forget just how powerful Illusionary Persona is in that F2-F4 work even without any illusions up, so if you need a daze or an invulnerability you can use F2-F4 without any illusions up. This makes Illusionary Invigoration all that much more powerful.

With all the shatters at your disposal and with S/P + Staff, you have basically max offensive with a large amount of defensive. I’ve tried S/P + GS but it just doesn’t compare for sPVP.

Rank 50+ my kitten There is no one Rank 50 yet and Crit Sigils put each other on cooldown you cannot equip both fire and lighting at once.

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Posted by: Kaaji.9480

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I just assumed that’s what he is now; I was in his sPVP group when he got 40 about a month ago I believe.

He uses Fire on staff and pistol, Air on Sword. Are you sure that if Air procs on Sword then Fire will be on cooldown on pistol…? I’ve never heard that, but if that’s the case then I’ll pass that info along.

Oh and Temariah, I wasn’t too sure how to paste it so that clicking it worked; sorry!

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Posted by: ilJumperMT.4871

ilJumperMT.4871

Rank 39-49 is 45k Glory per Rank. I doubt he is 50 :P

Yes I am sure that you cannot use 2 crit procs at once. They share same internal cooldown.

For shatter build, you should use Energy on Staff and Sword, Lighting on Pistol. This allows you to spam more clones via dodging.

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Posted by: Kaaji.9480

Kaaji.9480

Have you tried using Fire though? The damage is insanely high. I’ve never really had an issue getting clones out personally. I’ll probably switch out Air for Energy though, especially since I tend to need to dodge more when using S/P rather than Staff.

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Posted by: Osicat.4139

Osicat.4139

The rank x and rank that i skipp, still energy on staff is central in shatter builds imao as you swith to it after the "phantasm → shoot → dodge → sword leap → blade flurry → shatter nuke " combo. there is a reason its on staff and thats cause you use the staff switch for counterattack after the named burst. this mean you refill the used energy.

another thing is air fire share cd, already said but juts point out so you don waste a slot.

Last, want to point out, as a member in a. smal portal nuking group of kittens how strong fire is in group play. no mele or dps in a wvwvw team shoul be without fire sigil, the group dmg > personal benefits. If 10 ppl do a portal jump and nuke, and al have sigil of fire we get 10-18 k extra aoe dmg.

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Posted by: Xavi.6591

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What armour and runes are people finding the best for these builds? is the PvP armour worth it?

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Posted by: Osicat.4139

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@ xavi, im not going to tell you what to buy to have it work as im sure others have other ideas. It might endup that what I think is correct is by others considered wrong.

I can thu tell you what I use and why i deccided to use it I use enought valkyre and berserker that I with food reach 100crit dmg +, after that i get the knight for presition. this give me some toughthness, some health but keep my burst dmg insanley high.

I for my spec avoid pvp armour as I base my survival mainly on skills, shatters and utilitys. staff energy singil is absolutley a must for me. p/s I run fire aoe for group dmg and some nice dmg on my own, in oh atm is a 5 % dmg as it affect both crits and non crits dmg.

Again I dont claim my way to be the best or only one but it work extremly well for me in wvwvw solo and smal- midsize groups fight. huge portal jumps on zergs with 12-15 guildies i focus on get my time warp, chaos field and portals in place + 1 fire aoe.

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Posted by: TakaEagle.9486

TakaEagle.9486

@Kaaji

Just spec’d your build for sPVP. So awesome. Thanks alot :P

Can i ask whether i should be using the staff or sword/pistol as my weapon?

i.e the majority of the time.

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Posted by: Kaaji.9480

Kaaji.9480

@Kaaji

Just spec’d your build for sPVP. So awesome. Thanks alot :P

Can i ask whether i should be using the staff or sword/pistol as my weapon?

i.e the majority of the time.

Heh, don’t want to take credit since someone else made it but thanks! He was kind enough to pass it on to me so I figured I’d pass it on as well.

I always start out with S/P and do the basic phantasm + dodge + 3 illusion and either root them or even better stun them with 5 pistol, then shatter. I immediately switch to staff, normally drop Chaos Field and blink out of it giving me Chaos Armor. It’s key here to always keep Chaos Armor up with a staff as it provides a huge advantage… I have Null Field + Blink, Chaos Field + Blink, and 4 Staff to give me Chaos Armor (note: my passives are Null Field, Blink, and either Decoy or Portal depending on the situation; portal is ridiculously good for keeping points). If I have 3 phantasms up at this point I’ll use F2 to apply confusion, otherwise I’ll wait for F1 again.

I literally switch weapons every 10-12 seconds. No point in just running around auto-attacking while the previous weapon has cooldowns to use! As far as F3-F4, I’ll only use those when I have 0 or 1 illusion up, or if I’m REALLY in a bind.

As far as armor runes go, I use Divinity, but that’s just because the person I got the spec from uses Divinity. I haven’t tested with other armor runes. Anyone tried other stuff vs. Divinity to see how it fares?