Why I hate Blink

Why I hate Blink

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Posted by: Zintrothen.1056

Zintrothen.1056

I hate blink. I like how it works and how powerful it is. But I hate that it’s mandatory. It’s a 1200 range, stun breaking teleport on a 30 second CD.

So I want to start a discussion about Blink and why it’s mandatory and what can be changed to make it an optional utility without making it useless.

To give reference to other teleport/shadowstep skills:

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Infiltrator's_Signet
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Shadow_Trap
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Shadowstep
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Merciful_Intervention
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Judge's_Intervention
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Lightning_Flash
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Renewal_of_Air
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/%22Search_and_Rescue!%22
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Spectral_Walk
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Flesh_Wurm
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Portal_Entre
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Blink

If I missed any, let me know.

Discuss! How can we make blink optional without making it useless? And if for whatever reason it somehow isn’t actually mandatory, please show me a build that works against good players, doesn’t involve a pre nerfed Well of Precognition, and also doesn’t use blink.

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Posted by: OriOri.8724

OriOri.8724

Well to start with, if you want to talk about free teleport skills, only talk about those that don’t require a target.

  • Blink
  • Lightning Flash
  • Shadowstep
  • Necrotic Traversal

Significantly shorter list.

Also, you seem to be only talking about PvP, because blink is most definitely not mandatory in PvE or even WvW depending on what you are doing.

Lastly I don’t believe Blink is mandatory, merely extremely convenient. And quite frankly I can’t believe you are discussing how to nerf blink right now when we just heard that mesmers are about to get nerfed already on Tuesday. Not to mention that WoP is still a stunbreak on a 30 sec CD, so even though it has been nerfed several times, its still incredibly useful in a defensive build.

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Posted by: Windwalker.7421

Windwalker.7421

How about bringing other utilities up in usefulness to better rival Blink, rather than knee-jerk nerfing Blink based on a highly subjective opinion?

Or how about asking to make it a baseline ability if indeed it is as mandatory as you claim? That would infer to me that it is also fundamental and critical to the professions performance, and that changing it in any way could potentially greatly impact the professions performance in PvP?

Sorry no. Leave it alone, and bring other utilities up instead. It’s not like we don’t have a long list underperforming and down-right broken utilities that could get significant boosts to make the choice to take Blink a little harder.

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Posted by: Fay.2357

Fay.2357

Blink is mainly the top choice because of how it enables movement. Most other classes have ways to move rapidly, and this lets them pick how they want to accomplish that. There are various leaps, teleports, dashes, or other forms of movement skills that can be chosen from. Mesmer has phase-retreat swapping…and blink.

If you don’t want to be tethered down to a spot, you take blink. If you’re not worried about actually moving at all (see season 1 bunker meta) then you don’t need blink. Nerfing blink would only accomplish making mesmers worse in PvP. You’d still take it, it would just be worse.

How about instead of making garbage quality posts about nerfing things that not even the PvP whiners complain about, you think about what could make our other utilities better to compete with blink?

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Posted by: Zintrothen.1056

Zintrothen.1056

This is so typical of Mesmers. They see a post that can be taken as either, “nerf this thing”, or, “buff everything else”, and they instantly bash you with, “DON’T NERF THIS THING”. Not once did I suggest that blink should be nerfed…although I can see why you saw it such a post. Saying, “without making it useless”, could be seen as a nerf suggestion, but this was just poor wording on my part. Blink will never be useless as Fay pointed out. That will only make Mesmers worse.

For the record, I main Mesmer. I don’t want to see us nerfed into uselessness, but I also don’t kittening take someone’s suggestions personally unless they are horrible ideas (think like “make Mirror Blade only bounce once!” It does too much damage and I don’t know how to dodge!". And if you haven’t noticed, I haven’t actually suggested anything.

I’ll just say this again so it’s drilled into your skulls, I do not want nerfs. What I want is a civilized discussion about how we can make blink not be mandatory or not feel mandatory (if that wording suits you better), preferably without nerfs and with buffs to actually useless utilities.

That better? Of course it isn’t. It never is with you people. And kitten right I’m on a kittening high horse.

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Posted by: Ananeos.4587

Ananeos.4587

MEZ OP PLS NERF!!!!!1!!!

On a serious note blink is an auto include in everything because every other utility is just absolute garbage in the game modes that mesmer is in, only blink is ok in most game modes.

Hailsec – Asuran Mesmer | EVOS
Zraiyya – Asuran Elementalist | EVOS
Akkodi – Asuran Engineer | EVOS

(edited by Ananeos.4587)

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Posted by: OriOri.8724

OriOri.8724

This is so typical of Mesmers. They see a post that can be taken as either, “nerf this thing”, or, “buff everything else”, and they instantly bash you with, “DON’T NERF THIS THING”. Not once did I suggest that blink should be nerfed…although I can see why you saw it such a post. Saying, “without making it useless”, could be seen as a nerf suggestion, but this was just poor wording on my part. Blink will never be useless as Fay pointed out. That will only make Mesmers worse.

For the record, I main Mesmer. I don’t want to see us nerfed into uselessness, but I also don’t kittening take someone’s suggestions personally unless they are horrible ideas (think like “make Mirror Blade only bounce once!” It does too much damage and I don’t know how to dodge!". And if you haven’t noticed, I haven’t actually suggested anything.

I’ll just say this again so it’s drilled into your skulls, I do not want nerfs. What I want is a civilized discussion about how we can make blink not be mandatory or not feel mandatory (if that wording suits you better), preferably without nerfs and with buffs to actually useless utilities.

That better? Of course it isn’t. It never is with you people. And kitten right I’m on a kittening high horse.

Whether blink feels mandatory or not depends mostly on the game mode and you as a player. Personally I feel that blink is mandatory solely for the teleport while I am walking somewhere in PvE. It just happens to be our only teleport, but that doesn’t mean there is something wrong with our other utility skills.

LPT – If you want “civilized discussion”, don’t start berating others and acting like you are better than them.

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Posted by: Fay.2357

Fay.2357

You start the post with “I hate how blink works and I hate how powerful it is”. You continue with “how it can be changed without making it useless”. You end with “how can we make it optional without making it useless.”

So let parse this. You think blink is too powerful. You think blink should be changed. You want to avoid making it useless.

Call me crazy, but that sounds an awful lot like the start of a nerf discussion. Seems a bit odd to be berating people about something that’s so blatantly obvious in your post. If you truly didn’t write that post with blink nerfs in mind, that’s one hell of a lot of Freudian slips, if you know what I mean…

Edit: Just to make this even more abundantly clear.

If you wanted a discussion about how to bring other utilities up to the level of blink, you would be using language like “blink is one of few utilities enough strong enough to be guaranteed a spot on the bar, how can we buff other utilities to level that out?” The discussion wouldn’t be about blink, it would be about other utilities with blink simply providing the point of comparison. Instead, you started with the literal title of “Why I Hate Blink”, continued with complaining about blink, posted a long list of other teleport skills for some reason, and then cry foul that we think this is a nerf thread?

Give me a break.

(edited by Fay.2357)

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Posted by: Silverkey.2078

Silverkey.2078

Yes, mesmer is not very flexible in its utilities overall in PvP. Blink is too good to pass, portal is required if you play in an organized group, so is Moa. so we have pretty much 1 free slot.

I feel that overall the problem of mesmer is that we have great utilities, but bad weapon skills. Many classes have utilities in their weapons, but we sort of don’t. We have one CC on each set, but

  • no mobility (only sword 3 which is short-ranged, requires target, slow, unreliable)
  • no healing
  • very little support in general
  • no condi cleanse

etc… So we have to put everything either on our traits or our utilities, and it just gets crowded fast.

In my rework I suggested:

  • mobility on sword off-hand
  • support and healing on focus/staff
  • condi cleanse on staff, reliable cleansing bolts on focus
  • some fire field/blast on torch.

Will these make blink less mandatory? Maybe not. But the sword off-hand would for example give a bit of the mobility/defense that blink currently provides, so maybe…