Guild Wars 2

Saying immobilize is now going to kill our class? 10 seconds of immob etc. 10 seconds of immob is enough to kill any class..

Are people just being stupid?

Noone is saying were done in pvp. Atleast not without a viable argument.

We can still dodge/block/distort venoms anyway, if thats what youre talking about.

Current meta discourages Shatter build as they have little condition control and unless you carry idisenchante or null field / mantra then phantasm builds are also discouraged.

On a side note PU is popular because they inflict conditions while having multiple defenses. Stealth + PU boons + clones and condition cleanses through : Lyssa runes if you use it for MI, torch trait and a possible utility because the build can make room for it.

All classes that cannot stand still and bunker down are “done” in PvP due to the single kittened gameplay mode that only encourages standing in a tiny area rather than actually defeating your opponent in PvP combat.