Guild Wars 2

…have such a long cooldown?

We have an elite AOE stealth that applies stealth for 5 seconds on a 90 sec CD and veil applies stealth for 4 seconds on a 90 sec CD (granted you can roll through it twice for a total of 8 seconds, but not a constant 8 sec stealth).

I would LOVE to use this utility if it wasn’t on such a long CD. I feel like 60 secs would be sufficient enough; it wouldn’t be overpowered that way and it would give mesmers a reason to CONSIDER it. I dunno, I guess I feel like Veil of Invisibilty and Mass Invisibilty are too similar…..

Anyone else have some thoughts?

I find it handy for skipping a group past mobs in dungeons in certain situations. Namely Arah. It also gives the Mesmer a potential of 4 stealth abilities: Torch #4, Veil, Mass Invis, Decoy. Pretty handy for hiding in a Wv3 keep too.

I kinda miss the beta functionality of it though. Just a curtain of invis and nothing can see you standing behind it.

As far as I knew, veil didn’t have a cap on the amount of people that get stealth from it so if you use it on a choke point in WvW you can stealth an entire raid. MA is limited to 5 people.

That being said I agree a 60 second Cd seems more balanced.

No cap on number of people stealthed.

Possible to stealth twice.

Ethereal field.

Is Mass Invis limited to 5 players?

Veil is balanced, it’s Mass Invisibility that’s underpowered:

• Veil can stealth a whole zerg of allies as long as it’s active, Mass Invisibility can only stealth five nearby allies.
• Veil is a combo field, Mass Invisibility is not.
• Veil can be used more then once as long as it’s active, Mass Invisibility can only be used once.
• Veil has an almost instant cast time, Mass Invisibility has a cast time of almost 2 seconds.
• Both skills have a 90 second recharge.

I’m not really sure why ArenaNet felt like they needed to fix the Mass Invisibility bug, making it only affect five nearby players, instead of all nearby players. I think it was nicely balanced before, considering it is an elite skill. It was even my favorite Mesmer elite skill..

Guy above me is right, If anything it be cool if they made veil a elite and made mass inv a reg skill.

Because in the end Veil is by far more useful.

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Guy above me is right, If anything it be cool if they made veil a elite and made mass inv a reg skill.

Because in the end Veil is by far more useful.

Viel’s stealth duration is nowhere near as long as Mass Invisibility’s. If they were to switch places, the actual stealth duration needs to be the time stated, not some random amount < 4 seconds.

IMO Veil’s CD should be reduced to 60 seconds and MI’s CD reduced to 45 seconds. Compare and contrast Shadow Refuge: yes, Shadow’s Refuge is not strictly superior than either due to different functionalities, but I know if I had the choice I’d take Shadow Refuge over Veil or MI (and MI is meant to be an Elite?),