WvW - Full Cele or full Dire

WvW - Full Cele or full Dire

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Posted by: Expiatus.4210

Expiatus.4210

Dear Mesmer Community,
I have a WvW build question to ask of you. There are two builds I’m looking at:

the cele build
http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/?vhAQNAse2kknhy0YHas8cUoTQ+8Y1D6huonFQAcYA-TVyCABCqPohjAgEPAgvU+RxhAoT1fA4EAs8+DHqEkUA+J2C-w

the dire build
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vhAQNAre2kknhy0YHas8cU1D6huooTQ+cAnFQAcYA-TVyCABZp8rhjAAg6Do4EAs8+DJqEUiHAAAHCAPV/hUAwMNC-w

note: please ignore the backpack in the builds.

In WvW, I tend to roam solo or with small groups taking camps and picking small fights. I would think Dire is more survivable than Cele and a higher condi value; but then again, Cele has a higher power element along with condi and higher healing.

I’m newer to mesmer (loving the class) but I’m not yet at a point where I can see a build and see its flaws. So I’m reaching out to you all. What is your analysis?

Thanks,
Zinn Jinn (my mesmer)

Anvil Rock – Out manned, out gunned and no repair costs, so Leeroy up and dive in.
See you in Tyria.

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Posted by: Curunen.8729

Curunen.8729

I like mixing viper with cele trinkets. As you said the power element is nice to have and does good direct damage together with condi providing sustained damage.

Sure the toughness/vitality is lower, but you die so fast in wvw anyway that I don’t think it makes much difference.

Healing power is a useless stat though.

Dire is totally different as you will have negligible direct damage. With viper/cele I see some pretty nice crits with mind wrack.

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Posted by: Jace al Thor.6745

Jace al Thor.6745

Have you thought about using ineptitude instead of the second GM in Illsions? You’re running sword and shield so you have access to enough blocks and evades to make it worth while potentially.
As for the armor I tend to run a Dire Rabid mix. To me the healing stat on Cele is going to be wasted and with the dire I can survive 1v3’s quite well. Will I stomp them? Maybe not if they’re organized but I can harass to no end and that’s fun XD

Sachyi Asuna. A [KING]’s Mesmer Unified Kingdom

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Posted by: Expiatus.4210

Expiatus.4210

Have you thought about using ineptitude instead of the second GM in Illusions? You’re running sword and shield so you have access to enough blocks and evades to make it worth while potentially.
As for the armor I tend to run a Dire Rabid mix. To me the healing stat on Cele is going to be wasted and with the dire I can survive 1v3’s quite well. Will I stomp them? Maybe not if they’re organized but I can harass to no end and that’s fun XD

I haven’t considered Ineptitude, though I would need to evaluate the loss of either Malicious Sorcery providing a quicker scepter attack+skill cooldowns and thus more clones, and Master of Fragmentation with its all around shatter improvements. At first it seems the a cooldown of 10 seconds is little pricey for a 3.5 second blind. I’ll look into it though. Thanks.

Anvil Rock – Out manned, out gunned and no repair costs, so Leeroy up and dive in.
See you in Tyria.

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Posted by: Jace al Thor.6745

Jace al Thor.6745

It’s the blind plus confusion stacks that proc on blind application that are beneficial. And I didn’t see scepter equipped must have missed that or else I’d say Mal all the way.
To me MoF is good, but doesn’t compete with the other two for condi builds if using scepter or shield

Sachyi Asuna. A [KING]’s Mesmer Unified Kingdom