Guild Wars 2

should i build my mesmer for WvW group fight with conde gear.. im kinda new to mesmer anybody has a good wvw build for me that works in group fights

I think this depends a little on the types of groups and the role you want to play.

This is the build I use for a combination of solo roaming up to group fights that are maybe 10 versus 10.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vhQQNAr+fn0nBFqhNqBmpBEgiFnjquQT0G9MAGgEDtx2nEA-TFyCQBT4BAgsTAQBV/pe6FSkSQAcQAwz+DZR5XAAEgZWmRmBH9oH9oH9oNzZOzZOzZWIgFrBA-w

This has some pretty expensive equipment, so if you’re starting out you could consider exotic dire armor and weapons. Also you can use the consumables that are one step down.

In terms of supporting to help others in a group fight, your heal clears conditions and the phantasmal disenchanter does as well (disenchanter is kind of a tough skill to use – it has a long cast, and if there’s a lot of AoE he won’t live long enough to help much). Also, charging your mantra will heal people around you. The gravity well on a downed body will help to get it stomped or rezzed.

For me, one of the key things in a group fight is staying alive. So this build has a lot of personal condition clears and healing in addition to good toughness and vitality. If you’re getting focused, you can use either torch stealth or decoy to try to drop focus.

This is a 2v3 fight using this build to give you a little sense of what it’s like. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsYn0SNQV3s

WvW fights took me a long time to learn since I started with just pve experience. But they can be a ton of fun. Good luck.

So that build will work up to maaaaybe 10v10, but it probably won’t work well in a 10v10. Anything larger than that and it’ll be totally worthless.

Ultimately, mesmer is really bad at group fights. We show up to provide portal and veil…and that’s about it. It doesn’t really matter whether or not you go condie or power, because you’ll do absolutely nothing either way. The only reason to play mesmer in a group fight is if you get your rocks off on throwing down well timed veils.

Condi is good for roaming. For group fights you want power, but to play a viable build in a viable way, you have to be a great mesmer. It probably still is(and it certainly was) the hardest proffesion to play in WvW group play. I can tell you, look into boonshare or boonrip/cc builds, ofc you can always play focus, but currently i feel like thiefs are way more viable. Note: Mesmer is way more viable in preconstructed groups.

Good luck persuading any guild mesmer to reveal their builds, many have tried, many have failed. It might sound harsh, but it’s reality of the situation.

Also you might learn something from videos like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8q2zZYxWTA&list=LLtGII1hTfIOeuvx55rtLpjw&index=1

Condi mesmer is a no go for zerguing. Most groups now ask for boonshare mesmer. Then you can go for ranged dps/cc, quite fun but less effective and demanded

I am condi. I tend to roam or havoc. If I do follow a zerg/blob I hang out on the fringes killing downed players or chasing those trying to escape. Occassionally I find myself in the backline helping. But by then things have gone south.

SloRules.3560:

Good luck persuading any guild mesmer to reveal their builds, many have tried, many have failed. It might sound harsh, but it’s reality of the situation.

I’ve never understood this. It’s not like there are super special secret combinations of traits that work for things that I (or others) have never thought of. I guarantee you that no mesmer in this game is running a build that I haven’t at least thought of the concept for.

awwww don’t sell yourself short, you probably tested all of them unless we’re talking about terribly unviable build.

Other than the power suggestion mention….group condi aye…other than the standard inspi/illusion/chrono I could think about this condi interrupt build which maybe able to provide some more group capability (while sacrificing 1v1 dueling ability). Whooping 5 condi bomb per interrupt while you have 10 stacks of might per interrupt.

Ofc people will hate you for perplexity and dire, but why worry about that when you’re just starting. You can probably add a bit more precision with rabid but power damage is kind of unnecessary without power block. Plus you don’t have as much active defenses to survive focus fire in zerg anyway so be sure to escape with blink.

This probably builds more toward controlling the enemy so your raid can focus down them, or pile gravity field on enemy tail or head when their stability runs out after initial push. Just be careful not to waste precious interrupts on opponents with stability. As for reading skills to interrupt, always better but not entirely necessary since everyone autoattacks a lot in WvW.

Fay.2357:

SloRules.3560:

Good luck persuading any guild mesmer to reveal their builds, many have tried, many have failed. It might sound harsh, but it’s reality of the situation.

I’ve never understood this. It’s not like there are super special secret combinations of traits that work for things that I (or others) have never thought of. I guarantee you that no mesmer in this game is running a build that I haven’t at least thought of the concept for.

I think it is more due to their entire group synergy rather than a single class build.

Exciton.8942:

Fay.2357:

SloRules.3560:

Good luck persuading any guild mesmer to reveal their builds, many have tried, many have failed. It might sound harsh, but it’s reality of the situation.

I’ve never understood this. It’s not like there are super special secret combinations of traits that work for things that I (or others) have never thought of. I guarantee you that no mesmer in this game is running a build that I haven’t at least thought of the concept for.

I think it is more due to their entire group synergy rather than a single class build.

There’s still no secret sauce of combinations in GW2. The mechanics aren’t actually that complicated, and there’s a very limited number of general ways that classes can interact with each other. People always make out these WvW guild group compositions as these intricate contraptions that are so perfectly finely tuned and balanced that they couldn’t even let anyone know so it can’t be replicated.

In reality, they’re using the same builds as everyone else. They’ve got a frontline, a backline, and a pet mesmer with signet of inspiration on autocast. The reason that some guilds are successful is entirely their coordination and leader, the way they actually execute their strategies and the skill of their members.