Guild Wars 2

What do You think about assassin set for messmer PvE ?

Most likely worse than berserker. Due to how phantasms have permanent fury, they’ll always have pretty high crit chance, so it’s better to focus on your power.

Might be worth trying out a perception sigil over a bloodlust sigil in dungeons though.

…time to get myself a perception sigil.

Didn’t check the math by myself, but so far looks like Zerk > Assassin in almost any situation and build/prof, at least in terms of raw dmg (the loss in power isn’t matched by the increased amount of crits).

The only build i can think of using assassin’s… Is a high defense roaning build hat uses alot of cavalier items. It would want atleast 40% crit chance, sod you can swap a few berserker for assassin untill you have enough.

But yea, in pve power would be better, because your crit chance is high enough.

edit: congrats on your first post ;D.

According to Guang, an un-buffed 10/30/0/0/30 sword/pistol mesmer will do better with berserker, whereas a fully buffed 10/30/0/0/30 sword/pistol mesmer does slightly better with assassin.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/dungeons/Assassin-Vs-Berserker

Considering he specifies sword/pistol, it does make a lot of sense since you want to be maximising your crit chance with the duelist so you can consistently get 8 bleed stacks, and the bleed stacks scale better with might stacks (+875 condition damage) than power. On the other hand, you can miss out on the assassin precision and take your chances with berserker in a dungeon since your group will be stacking so much precision you’ll still be getting crits reliably.

colesy.8490:

According to Guang, an un-buffed 10/30/0/0/30 sword/pistol mesmer will do better with berserker, whereas a fully buffed 10/30/0/0/30 sword/pistol mesmer does slightly better with assassin.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/dungeons/Assassin-Vs-Berserker

Considering he specifies sword/pistol, it does make a lot of sense since you want to be maximising your crit chance with the duelist so you can consistently get 8 bleed stacks, and the bleed stacks scale better with might stacks (+875 condition damage) than power. On the other hand, you can miss out on the assassin precision and take your chances with berserker in a dungeon since your group will be stacking so much precision you’ll still be getting crits reliably.

Hmm, I am not sold on using a pistol in a shatter spec for pve heh. I guess you can spawn it right next to the mob if you are already there but I prefer having phants that will spawn up close even if I am further away do their thing quick and let me blow em up, I don’t like them needing run in time to reach their target. I am sure I am just thinking of it incorrectly or something?

It’s not a shatter build, the Illusionary Persona is just for the burst when you need it. Otherwise just leave them out and let them shoot.

Guanglai Kangyi.4318:

It’s not a shatter build, the Illusionary Persona is just for the burst when you need it. Otherwise just leave them out and let them shoot.

Sorry if you have discussed the specifics in another thread that details the actual build and I missed it but is the 10 point dom line the 15% illusion damage or the 20% mind wrack? I guess I am just having a hard time picturing what the intent is for this build, was it just for a dps test? Seems to me like you could run it 10/30/0/30/0 to get both 15% bonuses (they do stack right?) or is IC and PH really necessary argh…halp! need more info!…….

So when I was doing some roaming earlier today, I noticed the lack of precision actually had a significant effect on the crits of my duelist.

When I finish my legendary and get my warrior fully geared I’ll invest in some assassin gear, or at the very least I can get that perception sigil for my sword.

ShadowPuppet.3746:

Guanglai Kangyi.4318:

It’s not a shatter build, the Illusionary Persona is just for the burst when you need it. Otherwise just leave them out and let them shoot.

Sorry if you have discussed the specifics in another thread that details the actual build and I missed it but is the 10 point dom line the 15% illusion damage or the 20% mind wrack? I guess I am just having a hard time picturing what the intent is for this build, was it just for a dps test? Seems to me like you could run it 10/30/0/30/0 to get both 15% bonuses (they do stack right?) or is IC and PH really necessary argh…halp! need more info!…….

Sorry, yeah, it’s a phantasm DPS build. You just put the phantasms out and let them attack. They do a lot of damage. 10/30/0/0/30 is the best setup because +9% to your own damage + Phantasmal Haste is better than +15% to your phantasms.

Entire guide here:

http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/84947-mesmerizing-the-enemy-guide-to-mesmer-swordx-dps-builds/