Guild Wars 2

hi ppl

so after testing and comparing boon share variation here is my two variant of builds

hybrid condition boon share

build:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vhAQNAW7flsnhy0YBawUNQtGLvGk5KmRNRDQObSZC6d0A-TJhIwAAeCAk3fYwFBYYZAA

role:
1. point holder/decaper but dont try 1v2/3 too long
2. primary resser and stomper
3. boon share for fast kills and support

pros:
1. 5-8 boons on you constantly with almost perma protection, fury, 5 might and stability when needed
2. those boons prolong your boon and condi duration for 20% and more and combined with traveler total of 35% duration which is nice
3. can safely res and stomp with blind and stability so your team can focus on dmg
4. melee class will hate you
5. range class will hate your reflect abilities
6. good support with null filed/feedback and time warp
7. good up time of chaos armor and if blast the merrier
8. good pressure with confusion even with 1 shatter will stop your enemy from attack and focus on cleanse
9. boon share even if its 1 skill your team will love you (combine it with empower to get 25 stacks on your team!)
10. higher hp 25k with good speed (25%-33%)
11. good direct dmg even with low crit dmg you scepter can do 5k with confusion images. MW will do around 5k- 8k dmg (full 3 clones)

cons:
1. enemies composition – with 2 eles or guards and you have hard time to pressure (although they will focus on cleanse) – solution look for far or close fight and not mid as 1v1 you can take down guard or ele long fight and the hardest but doable
2. less direct dmg and no burst like powerblock – solution check your team composition which will need 1 condi class.
3. less condi burst without MI and bit less condition dmg

power boon share

build
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vhAQJAWRlsnhy0YBawUNQtGL4GkZGCxIPLxLudZAW9vA-TJhIABUXGAgnAAZ7P81lAAA

same concept

role
1. dmg dealer
2. primary resser and stomper
3. boon share for fast kills and support

pros:
1. 5-8 boons on you constantly with almost perma protection, fury, 10 might and stability when needed
2. those boons prolong your boon duration for 20% and more and combined with traveler total of 35% duration which is nice
3. can safely res and stomp with blind and stability 10% faster with feedback so your team can focus on dmg
4. good dmg spike with all the boons on you
5. range class will hate your reflect abilities
6. good support with null filed/feedback and time warp
7. good up time of chaos armor and if blast by your team the merrier
8. good pressure with staff and GS even with 1 shatter still can burst 100-0 zerker armor
9. boon share with 2 skills so you can doable use it to get 20 stacks of might. your team will love you (combine it with empower to get 25 stacks on your team!)
10. good hp 21k with good speed (25%-33%)

cons:
1. enemies composition – with 2 eles or guards and you have hard time to pressure (although they will focus on defense) – solution look for the zerker class (thief/ranger/necro)
2. no stun as powerblock – but you can take mantra instead of null filed
3. if you fail you burst you dmg will be bit low for 10 sec
4. look out from thieves as you dont got stealth and block

what i recommend?

both and depends on your team needs and composition regarding power class

the first video will be up soon with condi build
it was our first test with bunker guard and i had bad gameplay but you will see 25 stacks of might, bunker guard yell “OMG the dmg i am doing”

i will make power version soon

hope you test them both (probably the power more) and comment

condi video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiBAFMKqt4o&feature=youtu.be

bunker boon share

build
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vhAQNAW8cl0nhy0YBawUNQtGLzGk5IWRLPvROCeZAqdyA-TJxHwAILDM4JAUe/BAXEAA

pros:
1. huge amount of healing, boons and stability
2. good evade and block with sword with low cd versus other weapons
3. boon sharing
4. chaos armor uptime higher with sword leap
5. good amount of condi cleanse
6. good power so also doing ok dmg (condi less viable with bunker)
7. you can take several amulets like crusader, sentinel, knight, cavalier, soldier
8. very hard to kill

This reminds me a bit of the settlers bunker that helseth ran recently in the last esl. It actually did really well with sword invulns and staff chaos armor uptime but I may tweak it to have sceptre sword instead for more blocks and blinds via ineptitude.

nearlight.3064:

This reminds me a bit of the settlers bunker that helseth ran recently in the last esl. It actually did really well with sword invulns and staff chaos armor uptime but I may tweak it to have sceptre sword instead for more blocks and blinds via ineptitude.

i saw helseth went with carrion condi build with inspiration over chaos. which is more support role without much boons on him and no boon share
second fight we went with settler bunker with chaos line and no illusion line

p/s i cant believe helseth tried condi build ….

messiah.1908:

hope you test them both (probably the power more) and comment

I was running the power version in the OMFG event today and got squashed (I was Limnix), but I think that was my fault, not the fault of the build. I like the build a lot, and what I especially like about it is its ability to provide a lot of support to teammates without the need to play in a very special way to achieve that support.

messiah.1908:

nearlight.3064:

This reminds me a bit of the settlers bunker that helseth ran recently in the last esl. It actually did really well with sword invulns and staff chaos armor uptime but I may tweak it to have sceptre sword instead for more blocks and blinds via ineptitude.

i saw helseth went with carrion condi build with inspiration over chaos. which is more support role without much boons on him and no boon share

p/s i cant believe helseth tried condi build ….

Well he ran carrion condi shatter at first, and then the second round vs salt he switched to a settler’s sw/p staff bunker with chaos, illusions, inspiration. He spent they whole time in say chat saying things like “I am bunkr” and “no REZ vs bunkr”. He had illusion of life in that build as well.

Overall in gw2 I think your build is secondary to rotations, teamwork, and strategy, as well as teamfight mechanics. Even if your role is strange, being able to play it well can still net you wins. Sometimes I feel like the guiding hand of the meta builds is unhealthy for personal creativity and expression in this game.

As for carrion mesmer, I totally think it outperforms rabid on mesmer (and necro too). The on crit bleed procs mean nothing when the extra power helps you deal much more damage in teamfights, and you’ll be shattering everything anyway.

nearlight.3064:

Overall in gw2 I think your build is secondary to rotations, teamwork, and strategy, as well as teamfight mechanics.

care to explain why

also helseth run with bunker build with dueling and no illusion – he did no dmg at all just stay alive, cleanse condi, heal on shatter and mantra with stability nothing can touch this build

i would take boon share to at least share some boons to buff my team dmg

messiah.1908:

nearlight.3064:

Overall in gw2 I think your build is secondary to rotations, teamwork, and strategy, as well as teamfight mechanics.

care to explain why

also helseth run with bunker build with dueling and no illusion – he did no dmg at all just stay alive, cleanse condi, heal on shatter and mantra with stability nothing can touch this build

i would take boon share to at least share some boons to buff my team dmg

Was it duelling instead of illusions? That would make sense I guess since the blind spam would be about equal between them.

Anyway onto my point, take the Abjured as an example. They haven’t lost a single tournament match on NA in many months, and they have run some classes that aren’t considered to be the “meta”. For example right now the “meta” pvp classes are Ele, warrior, guard, mesmer, and thief, yet the abjured is able to win running two classes that aren’t considered meta, such as Necromancer and Engineer.

TCG being able to win against another top team on EU, with Helseth using condi shatter or settlers bunker is another example of this fact. Being able to be in the right place at the right time to outnumber and secure points is rotating, and its by far the most important aspect of the conquest game mode. After that, teamfight mechanics are the next most important (to win even numbered fights), and that includes things such as positioning, communicating and timing bursts/CC, and proper use of rezzing/stomping/downcleaving. After that, skill in 1v1s and smaller skirmishes is next most important.

The next most important step after that is builds and overall team composition. You can run the most meta specs on the most meta classes, but that won’t mean anything if you can’t play those classes well and you can’t communicate and rotate as a team.

Edit: Even just now, the Abjured won the weekly ESL with Nos on minion necro, just to point that out.

oh i though i mean the builds above is not good with the meta atm.

i totaly agree that meta build are the last to be taen into account

rotation and communication is the most important things

you can see me doing so many mistakes in the vid above and the bunker guard was able to help as we planned to play together. also good map awarness and me going far decap to spread the enemies focus and taking all the hit while my team are the zerker doing free dmg …

what i love atm is everyone is testing eveything so atm there is no meta

regarding the builds above – ressing , stomping, buffing your team, support them, good speed to cover the map, good dmg or bunkering give some edge to the fight