Guild Wars 2

i have trouble to handle against conditions classess like necro/engi and p/d thief with my shatter build/pu power build
i use mantra to cleanse but that not enough against their burst

any advice

The mantra is really all you should need. The rest is just a matter of dodging the important condition skills. Don’t get grenades loaded on you vs engie, dodge the unload for p/d, pressure the necro hard.

the necro just use his DS and chill me and torment me while using signet on me ans AA
when he was down to 50% hp he use worm and heal himself and back all over
he probably run full dire

the engi just run and heal himself so easily and also the thief with stealth

while i cant run away like this

Vs necros and engis – dodging, kiting and avoiding attacks. Knowing when to back off and when to come back in for a burst. Sitting in range trying to chip away at their health without fading in and out will usually result in you being melted.

Vs those peksy condition thieves – grab them by the scruff of the neck with one hand and falcon punch them with the other. :P
Seriously, seizing them while they’re not hiding their annoying little faces and bursting as hard as possible – failing that, running is always an option!

pressure and range. Vs engies and necros you need to stay away from them and let your phantasm do the work. Vs thieves you need to keep pressure on and play super aggressive .

Well I guess the build that you are using is always important.

But I would say :

p/d thief – try to use your illusions as shield and dodge/BF the unload and don’t be afraid to shatter so that he can’t clock and dagger. Then pressure him.

Engys – you will need to keep the distance use your range weapon and sometimes back off a bit and let the phantasms pressure him. Keep an eye for Confusion and if you can’t dodge the pull use decoy or if you are hit, look at your condition bar, probably you will have lots of confusion from the interrupt and the prybar hit.
If Engy use his elite, don’t go into the middle of it, unless you have BF ready and can dodge or stealth out of it after you use the BF, Keep hitting the engy from distance.

Necros – Have some stunbreak ready in case you are feared, decoy is really good in this case because some keep spending their good spells on the illusion. If you were severely hit back off a bit and let the clones keep the pressure, try not to put them all together because of necros AOE unless they are near the necro and you want them to die to pressure the necro with conditions.

Right. One thing that’s bugging me, comments-wise. P/D does not have Unload. It does have a Sneak Attack what slaps a nice chunk of Bleeds on the target . Besides that; don’t let them close in on you with that OH Dagger, that opens up Shadow Strike for a couple stacks worth of Torment, and/or Cloak and Dagger. If they try Hide in Shadows, Interrupt that silliness and burst ’em hard.

Necros: Stability or Invulns. (Especially now that Fear counts as an Interrupt.) CC the hell outta Necros, they have poor access to Stability, and will get bounced around left and right. Although, be wary of their ability to invert your Boons or manipulate Conditions against you. If anything, these guys (and Engis) are why I typically run Arcane Thievery. Steals some of their goodies, and tosses some of those nasty condis back in their face. (Especially funny against Plague/Lich … swipes their Stability)

Engis are just annoying to fight. They pack painful amounts of CC, AoE and Conditions, and typically can take enough hits to keep giving you issues. You’re generally going to have to out-smart these guys. Crap out a spare clone, go sneak mode, hit them from unexpected angles. Do not eat the Magnet/Prybar combo. Definitely don’t get a Supply Crate to the face. Do expect ’nades or Bombs to be used when you close in on ’em. (Especially since ’nades are a lot easier/faster to spam as PBAoE.)

It would be better if you can give us more detail on your build, including gear and utilities you are using; but a rule of tum that works for me against the following

Necro and engi just as someone had said, stay away from them. Rang and let your clones do all the damage. Since you also said you play shatter / PU build, I will suggest less shatter and more vanishing to confuse and to help stay at rang.

As for p/d thief, I myself have problems with them, but pressure works. Again less shatter more clone creation and stay close to clones for confusion and if you do shatter, your clones don’t have to run far before the hit.

i am usnig shattere build 4,4,0,0,6 full zerk with mantra to cleanse conditions
sometime i can catch them by surprise and hit them hard with one shatter for 80% dmg but than again as you mention above i need to let my illusion to do the rest and not shatter
necros are being hard to counter as their AA can give me 5 stacks of bleeding, poison and torment (sigil) as its hard to dodge all the time so being shatter spec doesnt help against it

as PU power build i run 4,4,6,0,0 or 2,4,6,2,0 with mantra and/or heal as condition cleanse. its more easy to handle but again its hard to dodge all their attacks (and if you dodge and move they recognize you) and i cant stealth forever

maybe when they break the fight to heal i should do too. but necro has 2 hp bars so its hard to break the fight

Don’t stay at long range all the time – especially kittenter. Come in quick, burst hard, and back off again. You need to close to melee range to deal some nice damage – the key is knowing when to fade back and when to come in.