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Posted by: Kjeldoran.3849

Kjeldoran.3849

Hello,
i just restarted playing gw2 after a break (some patches ago) and i’m having truble using my mesmer in pvp (… i have problems also with guardian… but, what strange, no problems with warrior and thief…).

1) illusionary leap -> fails almost every time also if the targe is in front of me but the is a small ground difference (like a tile slightly higher)
2) blink -> 50% of times teleport me back to my starting position after using it…
3) the prestige -> if i use it and fastly press over another skill it is interrupted and also the new skill is interrupted.
4) decoy -> 25% of times i dont get invisibility. I don’t know if it is a graphic bug but i feel like enemies can see me… and actually attack me also if i have the “invisibility” bonus in the boon bar)
5) phantasmal berserker -> if the target moves (or do something i don’t know) the close start running at enemy… instead of attack him and wait for whirling cd like it was used

So, how did you get rid of all those problem? I dont remember i had so many problems last time… thank you.

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Posted by: Zelulose.8695

Zelulose.8695

I have found the solution!

1. If it’s bugged, don’t use ileap. It is easy for players to dodge and I have fun dodging it myself.

2. Don’t use blink. Staff skill 2 is much better anyway with a better CD.

3-4) Don’t stealth. It’s a wast of time when you could be doing damage and, while you are invisible, people and ai attack your phants killing your damage.
5). I have no idea what you were saying, but the izerker should be used for its aoe and cripple. Stop complaining that your ai isn’t attacking on your command XD.

Have fun with mesmer.

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Posted by: Jurica.1742

Jurica.1742

1) It’s been here forever. You need to learn to deal with it.
You’re over exaggerating.. To me, it fails 5-10% of the time.
2) You can’t blink everywhere. That is a L2P issue. There are videos on youtube explaining how blink works and where you can blink and where you can not.
3) I don’t understand you completely here? The Prestige has almost no cast time.
If you use it while casting some other skill, that isn’t a problem with the class, it is you.
4) There is a bug where after you use stealth and teleport somewhere while in stealth(like with blink, phase retreat) or stealth finishes (if you have normal stealth + decoy stealth and normal stealth finishes) you will look as if you are not stealthed but people can not see you. Unless you attack someone and reveal yourself.
This is a common misconception. Stealth is not immunity. If an enemy is channeling an attack towards you and you stealth in the middle of that channel, the attack still can hit you.
If you are in stealth and walk into someones attack, you will be damaged.
5) This is normal. If your target starts running the phantasm will follow him. The phantasm will do this when it knows that if it just whirls right away that it will miss.. So the phantasm is positioning itself until it can make sure the whirl hits. As long as your target keeps moving out of range, the iZerker will keep following him until he is in range. Same with all phantasms as well as clones.

These are all L2P issues except the ileap one, but it doesn’t happen as often…

To the poster above: You are wrong in 1, 2 and 3-4
It is not that buggy, and it can be dodged, but it is a great skill.
Blink is one of THE BEST skills we have. It is in all builds, pretty much no one runs without it. You can use it in a million ways.
Stealth is great, expecting it to give you full immunity is wrong. There is nothing wrong with stealth.
Would you rather do damage for 30 seconds then die and come back after 30 seconds or do damage for 25 seconds, stealth for 5 to reset then keep on doing damage for another 25 seconds?
That is 50 seconds with 5 second DPS downtime vs. 30 seconds with 30 second DPS downtime.

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Posted by: Kjeldoran.3849

Kjeldoran.3849

I have found the solution!

1. If it’s bugged, don’t use ileap. It is easy for players to dodge and I have fun dodging it myself.

2. Don’t use blink. Staff skill 2 is much better anyway with a better CD.

3-4) Don’t stealth. It’s a wast of time when you could be doing damage and, while you are invisible, people and ai attack your phants killing your damage.
5). I have no idea what you were saying, but the izerker should be used for its aoe and cripple. Stop complaining that your ai isn’t attacking on your command XD.

Have fun with mesmer.

well… ill try using staff… let’s how it ends XD

stuffs

while Zelulose was usefull i can’t say the same for you XD addressing it to L2P issue isn’t a solution, why? because i know how to use mesmer and you didn’t read carefully what i said, ill explain again:
1) sword 3 is bugged but doing spvp it is really hard to find a place perfectly on pair
2) i know i “cant blink everywhere” but i said “when i use blink i get teleported back” this means: 1- i use blink 2- i get teleport to the target area 3- i get teleported back (anyway i think this was a connection issue)
3) the prestige has no casting time… but, again due to connection, it failed (i think) because i use a precise skill rotation so i press buttons very fast goin over the next skill before to see the previous one completed (but connection is blocking me.. i see)
4) ok … i dont know if i did what you said but it seems legit. And again i want to let you know that i know stealth =/= invulnerability simply i was wondering if that auto-attack spamming directed to me was due to the “failed stealth” or to a “random spamming”
5) again here i was looking for a serious help. I know i have to “stay in range” but there is another problem:
-phantasmal berserker = 1200 range
-enemy is moving, i’m following at the same speed
-if startind distance was <1200 it shoul be <1200 everywhere
-here occurs the issue on casting phantoms

anyway i was talking about spvp… because i don’t use mesmer for pve.
It seemed that most of problems comes from a not optimal internet connection… but considering i’m using a 20mb internet…

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Posted by: Ansau.7326

Ansau.7326

Hello,
i just restarted playing gw2 after a break (some patches ago) and i’m having truble using my mesmer in pvp (… i have problems also with guardian… but, what strange, no problems with warrior and thief…).

1) illusionary leap -> fails almost every time also if the targe is in front of me but the is a small ground difference (like a tile slightly higher)
2) blink -> 50% of times teleport me back to my starting position after using it…
3) the prestige -> if i use it and fastly press over another skill it is interrupted and also the new skill is interrupted.
4) decoy -> 25% of times i dont get invisibility. I don’t know if it is a graphic bug but i feel like enemies can see me… and actually attack me also if i have the “invisibility” bonus in the boon bar)
5) phantasmal berserker -> if the target moves (or do something i don’t know) the close start running at enemy… instead of attack him and wait for whirling cd like it was used

So, how did you get rid of all those problem? I dont remember i had so many problems last time… thank you.

1) Leap skills have lots of bugs, it’s not only a mesmer problem. Illusionary Leap will hardly ever been fixed. It requires to redo how leap skills and ground work.
2) Seems to me more a connection issue than a Blink bug. Transportation skills also have a complex mechanic, but here I haven’t seen a pattern for a bug.
3) To me it seems more a ghosting problem than a game issue. May I ask which keyboard do you have? Just tested and I can use Prestige and Blink at the same time. Also used Prestige + Null Field and I don’t see what problems do you have.
4) Decoy works differently from stealth, it’s a different buff. You can have both stealth and Decoy activated, but durations don’t stack. Also, it can be used while revealed. About channeled skills, Jurica explained it well. If the enemy started an attack while having you tagged, Stealth doesn’t prevent you from taking damage.
5) One thing is skill range and another is phantasm attack range. Every phantasm has an internal range, so if the enemy is in it, it’ll attack, but if he doesn’t find anyone in range, he will move.
Haven’t seen internal range issues with iZerker.

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Posted by: Benjamin.8237

Benjamin.8237

It appears you are suffering the rubberband effect which affects leaps and blinks. The sword 3 skill works 100% of the time if you are close to your opponent or on flat ground or above them on a hill. Guardian should be easy to beat also. How many patches ago by the way? Most people in high pvp know how to fight and counter Mesmer and you have to mechanically play to a high degree often to beat them. Just get your binds right, you need to be able to 180-phaseretreat-180 with a staff in 1/2 second

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Posted by: Fay.2357

Fay.2357

The sword 3 skill works 100% of the time if you are above them on a hill.

This isn’t true. Any sort of slope can and will make the leap fail spectacularly.

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Posted by: Benjamin.8237

Benjamin.8237

The sword 3 skill works 100% of the time if you are above them on a hill.

This isn’t true. Any sort of slope can and will make the leap fail spectacularly.

Are you sure? I’ve been led to believe when I am higher on a slope than my opponent that it connects, such as in the borderlands areas where the non home teams spawn.

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Posted by: Fay.2357

Fay.2357

The sword 3 skill works 100% of the time if you are above them on a hill.

This isn’t true. Any sort of slope can and will make the leap fail spectacularly.

Are you sure? I’ve been led to believe when I am higher on a slope than my opponent that it connects, such as in the borderlands areas where the non home teams spawn.

It certainly can work, but it’s absolutely not a guarantee. Any sort of slope will cause the clone to get confused.

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Posted by: Wyrden.4713

Wyrden.4713

The sword 3 skill works 100% of the time if you are above them on a hill.

This isn’t true. Any sort of slope can and will make the leap fail spectacularly.

Are you sure? I’ve been led to believe when I am higher on a slope than my opponent that it connects, such as in the borderlands areas where the non home teams spawn.

It certainly can work, but it’s absolutely not a guarantee. Any sort of slope will cause the clone to get confused.

when i am above the enemy slightly my i Leap clone mostly runs in exactly, but rly exactly other direction ( maybe it finds another path behind u to take so it goes in circle to reach the enemy , but u will never know cause iLeap is too short and once its done casting the clone will just walk back to ur target

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Posted by: NICENIKESHOE.7128

NICENIKESHOE.7128

Just out of curiosity, if you can change ileap range tooltip what range would you put down?

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Posted by: Fay.2357

Fay.2357

Just out of curiosity, if you can change ileap range tooltip what range would you put down?

The range is correct, just include an additional note about how this skill is liable to not work if used on anything but a featureless plane.