Guild Wars 2

first of all people who hate mes as always have nothing left to complain

second ,balance team leader is karl

third,with massive power creep hot introduced , quality of players seems to become worse and worse . so all i saw in pvp forum are ridiculous complaints ,they dont even bother to read anything remotely related to mes but complain about pure nonsense.

Good because personally I’m fed up with the entire “raison d’etre” of Mesmer in pvp revolving around these two skills.

It’ll expose how weak the rest of the class is for the balance team.

I hope they are finally gonna spit pvp from pve then … I can’t imagine to nerf portal properly without ruining it in pve.

As for Moa, maybe lower duration and lower cd? Just like they did on Ranger’s Entangle.

Put moa or portal on F5 but only for normal mesmer (not chrono). How about it.

Curunen.8729:

Good because personally I’m fed up with the entire “raison d’etre” of Mesmer in pvp revolving around these two skills.

It’ll expose how weak the rest of the class is for the balance team.

honestly i dont like moa myself.

but for portal ,its a good designed skill ,it opens up more strategies . deeper game play is what gw2 needs .

Anet just failed to balance

if anet will nerf those skills it would be a shame

pvp is all about team and not soloq 1v1
if your team fail to support you while you moa’d than its their fualt. if you cant hit the evade keys than its oyur fualt.
yes i also died as moa in about 10% of the time why – cause i know this skill and my team helps me. yes most of the time i ended in 25% hp but its like calling for nerf for every skill which hit you while you already used all your escpae utlities and heal skill.

moa is basically the only skill which make your team play as one. atm most of the classes are self sustain. even bunker got killed. mainly ele is the only reminder left.
moa is the only skills which make the fight more intresting.

i myself can see moa nerf not becuase its strong rather to see some change in mesmer. to cut it to 5 sec will destroy mesmer (not to talk about portal)
if its 5 sec with 90 sec cd than give it more like for 5 sec the moa take doable dmg (condi and direct) thus make you not only to turn moa also to plan the burst on him and yor team burst. and also nerf moa skills with shorter evade or no evade at all. and give it more power….

portal – should not touch it . hardly ppl use it in soloq. and in team fight its maked the fight intresting to watch . like a thief decaping point and flipping the map.

musu.9205:

Curunen.8729:

Good because personally I’m fed up with the entire “raison d’etre” of Mesmer in pvp revolving around these two skills.

It’ll expose how weak the rest of the class is for the balance team.

honestly i dont like moa myself.

but for portal ,its a good designed skill ,it opens up more strategies . deeper game play is what gw2 needs .

Anet just failed to balance

Yeah I’m sorry to have come across so strongly.

I do like Portal and agree it opens up high skill play. I just don’t like mesmers being “portal bots” akin to “veil bots” in wvw.

Quadox.7834:

Put moa or portal on F5 but only for normal mesmer (not chrono). How about it.

Interesting idea.

I do believe Portal should be somewhere else than a utility slot – so either make it an elite or make it an F5 for base mesmer. It doesn’t really fit glamours at all, so the F5 idea sounds nice, especially because Chrono is thematically different.

Moa can stay as an elite though, but I think half duration on a ~90-120s cooldown would be nice.

Curunen.8729:

Good because personally I’m fed up with the entire “raison d’etre” of Mesmer in pvp revolving around these two skills.

It’ll expose how weak the rest of the class is for the balance team.

Sadly I must agree with this.

Portal to be attackable? o.o Ofc for PvE 95% dmg reduction…

Xyonon.3987:

Portal to be attackable? o.o Ofc for PvE 95% dmg reduction…

Where did anyone say that? 0.o

Being on F keys wouldn’t be changing the skill itself. They don’t have to all be shatters.

People have been complaining about portal and moa since betas back in May/June 2012. Both skills have been nerfed in the past from a result of all the whining.

The moaning in forums is nothing new.

bearshaman.3421:

Curunen.8729:

Good because personally I’m fed up with the entire “raison d’etre” of Mesmer in pvp revolving around these two skills.

It’ll expose how weak the rest of the class is for the balance team.

Sadly I must agree with this.

As do I, but there is no balance team it’s just Karl and some feedback from top players along with complaints from casuals who are bad and get set up on. They have never balanced this class based on context.

He thinks mes is OP.
Casuals think mes is OP. – despite being unable to doge a shatter.
Pros fear mes becoming OP. – S1 is not going to help this perspective.

If there are changes, it will be justified in their minds and nothing will change for a long time. If the first couple of years are any indicator it shows that having to spend more effort to do decent damage, only to be stunted by cooldowns is considered bad design if your anything but a mesmer.

If Anet kills off my mesmer even more. That will be it. Ill do BDO instead. I got no time for this.

Curunen.8729:

Good because personally I’m fed up with the entire “raison d’etre” of Mesmer in pvp revolving around these two skills.

It’ll expose how weak the rest of the class is for the balance team.

I was going to go with this but we all know that if they finally get rid of these skills they still won’t actually buff Mesmer

Curunen.8729:

Xyonon.3987:

Portal to be attackable? o.o Ofc for PvE 95% dmg reduction…

Where did anyone say that? 0.o

I just did – it’s a suggestion rather than a nerf like “cd increased to 300, range recreased to 1000” or something like that … we know ANet – they love the whack a mole game but with a 10t hammer