iDisenchanter any good in WvW roam?
Its the best condi clear. Plus it steals boons at the same time
I use it. The cast time is long, but once it’s up, it makes a big difference.
The only thing you might want to check when duoing with the thief is if the bounces hit your thief friend in stealth. That may give away the thief’s position to an enemy who is paying attention.
thanks, I thought it looked solid on paper per say since its a condi clear every 20 seconds, but things don’t always work as prescribed.
thanks, I thought it looked solid on paper per say since its a condi clear every 20 seconds, but things don’t always work as prescribed.
Its a lot more than 1 every 20 sec. Thatd be incredibly weak. Its a phantasm that when summoned casts a spell similar to the staff auto that bounces between allies (curing conditions) and enemies (stealing boons). If no one notices it or doesnt take the time to kill it its pretty much GG against a condi build
thanks, I thought it looked solid on paper per say since its a condi clear every 20 seconds, but things don’t always work as prescribed.
Its a lot more than 1 every 20 sec. Thatd be incredibly weak. Its a phantasm that when summoned casts a spell similar to the staff auto that bounces between allies (curing conditions) and enemies (stealing boons). If no one notices it or doesnt take the time to kill it its pretty much GG against a condi build
Bro from where I’m coming from I was happy with a condition clear every 20 seconds. Hearing what you just said has me salivating. About to hit 80 on my first toon and getting ready for some roaming fun. This skill makes my nipples wet.
It shouldn’t make you wet anywhere and it is horrible skill in WvW. Long animation, it doesn’t move fast enough, has very bad synergy with other clone phantasm summoning skills and shatter skills. Use Mender’s purity for yourself or in case you don’t wonna invest 10 points in inspiration and your goal is to remove cond from the thief as well use mantra of resolve. Disenchanter is very good skill for CoE runs and some other high cond boon producing dungeon bosses.
Runs with thieves especially high crit glass build can be a lot of fun. I usually go with cheesiest PU Scepter/torch staff full dire armor + trinkets and act as an unkillable clone making machine. While ppl trying to kill me and it is not an easy task considering 25k HP +3k armor thieves kill them hiding behind my clones.
It shouldn’t make you wet anywhere and it is horrible skill in WvW. Long animation, it doesn’t move fast enough, has very bad synergy with other clone phantasm summoning skills and shatter skills. Use Mender’s purity for yourself or in case you don’t wonna invest 10 points in inspiration and your goal is to remove cond from the thief as well use mantra of resolve. Disenchanter is very good skill for CoE runs and some other high cond boon producing dungeon bosses.
Runs with thieves especially high crit glass build can be a lot of fun. I usually go with cheesiest PU Scepter/torch staff full dire armor + trinkets and act as an unkillable clone making machine. While ppl trying to kill me and it is not an easy task considering 25k HP +3k armor thieves kill them hiding behind my clones.
I would like to kill things within a year on my own so dire and gs just aren’t what I wanna run. I have my own little quirky build that I’ve been running in sPvP which has been extremely good dueling wise, but given how stupid sPvP is, I cant stand to log in for more then a few minutes for more testing. I have a question about you the synergy and movement speed of the iDisenchanter. What do you mean about synergy in regards to this skill and slow as in how so?
Thanks.
Fights in WVW are dynamic and illusions in a lot of cases left behind and do nothing good. That is why my 2 favored are Iduelist and Iswordsmen. They are actively pursuing target and hard to dodge.
Mesmer limited to 3 illusions and phats>clones. Ie if you have 3 phats up you are unable to produce clones without destroying phats first and any moron can see difference between you and phantom. It left you open for attacks. All i am saying is just IMHO and other ppl might have different experience and opinion on the subject. I recommend to try it and see for yourself. What do you have to loose. 2 s for repair in worst case:)
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Fights in WVW are dynamic and illusions in a lot of cases left behind and do nothing good. That is why my 2 favored are Iduelist and Iswordsmen. They are actively pursuing target.
Mesmer limited to 3 illusions and phats>clones. Ie if you have 3 phats up you are unable to produce clones only phats and any moron can see difference between you and phantom. It left you open for attacks. All i am saying is just IMHO and other ppl might have different experience and opinion on the subject. I recommend to try it and see it for yourself. What do you have to loose. 2 s for repair in worst case:)
The Disenchanter attacks even faster than the swordsman, and has range like the duelist. Your point of them actively pursuing the target not only doesn’t make sense, it’s completely wrong.
Also, if you get 3 phantasms up, one will pop to produce a clone. Additionally, having only phantasms up doesn’t leave you open for attacks. If you’re trying to hide by looking or acting like clones, you’re playing poorly. A good opponent will never be fooled like that, and so you’re simply wasting your time and hurting your potential by trying to do that.
Not saying that at all and I appreciate any feedback. I also am busy and not able to log on, so I wanted to get some discussion going until I get on later tonight.
Fights in WVW are dynamic and illusions in a lot of cases left behind and do nothing good. That is why my 2 favored are Iduelist and Iswordsmen. They are actively pursuing target.
Mesmer limited to 3 illusions and phats>clones. Ie if you have 3 phats up you are unable to produce clones only phats and any moron can see difference between you and phantom. It left you open for attacks. All i am saying is just IMHO and other ppl might have different experience and opinion on the subject. I recommend to try it and see it for yourself. What do you have to loose. 2 s for repair in worst case:)The Disenchanter attacks even faster than the swordsman, and has range like the duelist. Your point of them actively pursuing the target not only doesn’t make sense, it’s completely wrong.
Also, if you get 3 phantasms up, one will pop to produce a clone. Additionally, having only phantasms up doesn’t leave you open for attacks. If you’re trying to hide by looking or acting like clones, you’re playing poorly. A good opponent will never be fooled like that, and so you’re simply wasting your time and hurting your potential by trying to do that.
Do you personally use disenchanter in Wvw or just saying it for the sake of argument?
I newer seen anyone does it and my experience with it was not good.
Fights in WVW are dynamic and illusions in a lot of cases left behind and do nothing good. That is why my 2 favored are Iduelist and Iswordsmen. They are actively pursuing target.
Mesmer limited to 3 illusions and phats>clones. Ie if you have 3 phats up you are unable to produce clones only phats and any moron can see difference between you and phantom. It left you open for attacks. All i am saying is just IMHO and other ppl might have different experience and opinion on the subject. I recommend to try it and see it for yourself. What do you have to loose. 2 s for repair in worst case:)The Disenchanter attacks even faster than the swordsman, and has range like the duelist. Your point of them actively pursuing the target not only doesn’t make sense, it’s completely wrong.
Also, if you get 3 phantasms up, one will pop to produce a clone. Additionally, having only phantasms up doesn’t leave you open for attacks. If you’re trying to hide by looking or acting like clones, you’re playing poorly. A good opponent will never be fooled like that, and so you’re simply wasting your time and hurting your potential by trying to do that.
Do you personally use disenchanter in Wvw or just saying it for the sake of argument?
I newer seen anyone does it and my experience with it was not good.
It’s more or less a permanent fixture on my bar. I won’t use it in zerg fights of course, but any roaming or small group actions see me using it.
It’s an incredibly strong skill. A 20 second cooldown for a phantasm that attacks every 4 seconds with a bouncing projectile that hits 5 targets and removes 2 boons from enemies and 2 conditions from allies. If it only gets 2 attacks off, it’s already better than null field and mantra of resolve and arcane thievery.
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Fights in WVW are dynamic and illusions in a lot of cases left behind and do nothing good. That is why my 2 favored are Iduelist and Iswordsmen. They are actively pursuing target.
Mesmer limited to 3 illusions and phats>clones. Ie if you have 3 phats up you are unable to produce clones only phats and any moron can see difference between you and phantom. It left you open for attacks. All i am saying is just IMHO and other ppl might have different experience and opinion on the subject. I recommend to try it and see it for yourself. What do you have to loose. 2 s for repair in worst case:)The Disenchanter attacks even faster than the swordsman, and has range like the duelist. Your point of them actively pursuing the target not only doesn’t make sense, it’s completely wrong.
Also, if you get 3 phantasms up, one will pop to produce a clone. Additionally, having only phantasms up doesn’t leave you open for attacks. If you’re trying to hide by looking or acting like clones, you’re playing poorly. A good opponent will never be fooled like that, and so you’re simply wasting your time and hurting your potential by trying to do that.
Do you personally use disenchanter in Wvw or just saying it for the sake of argument?
I newer seen anyone does it and my experience with it was not good.It’s more or less a permanent fixture on my bar. I won’t use it in zerg fights of course, but any roaming or small group actions see me using it.
It’s an incredibly strong skill. A 20 second cooldown for a phantasm that attacks every 4 seconds with a bouncing projectile that hits 5 targets and removes 2 boons from enemies and 2 conditions from allies. If it only gets 2 attacks off, it’s already better than null field and mantra of resolve and arcane thievery.
was wanting to hear this since its exactly what I wanted from this ability, thanks.