Guild Wars 2

do i see less condi mesmer in ranked these couple of days….

they they switch to warrior?

Hehe people go where FOTM is Still playing my Power Mes just like I did before the patch :P

Taking down a condi war is much the same as taking down a condi mes on a power berserker or lockdown chrono.

Let them change XD

I wanted to try Scepter/Shield Staff Condi Chrono in sPvP, what do you think about this, guys? Is it viable? Any build? Thank you in advance x)

lol, good – at least the vitriol of the mob will be directed elsewhere.

Simeonus.9237:

I wanted to try Scepter/Shield Staff Condi Chrono in sPvP, what do you think about this, guys? Is it viable? Any build? Thank you in advance x)

I’ve been using Sc/Sh and Sw/T with carrion amulet and scrapper runes. Sigils I go with double doom and bursting, running standard Insp/Illusions/Chrono except I use the trait for faster attack speed and recharge reduction with scepter. Run the standard portal, blink, SoI, heal signet and gravity well. I love it! Decent sustain but more damage output than old merc amulet. I don’t like staff personally so I run Sw/T for blur, stealth and sword 3 is good for setting up bursts!

Simeonus.9237:

I wanted to try Scepter/Shield Staff Condi Chrono in sPvP, what do you think about this, guys? Is it viable? Any build? Thank you in advance x)

Not sure why you’d use a shield over a torch? But maybe that’s just me, I don’t see much point in shield in general.

For myself in pvp I’ve been playing condtion mesmer fire/confusion/torment for more hp/s and it cuts through the defenses warriors and rangers have where they take zero damage for a short time. Also 2 on a scepter is a great way to wear down thives or anyone else wanting a piece of Cat Mage. That torment damage adds up

Shield works really great with scepter though…you get 2 illusion summoning blocks, clone on AA, and a decent cc option for landing bursts. But I use Sw/T for my other set, so I still get my stealth and burns from torch, I dropped staff because it feels like the most useless weapon ever and I hate it baha

Greasy.7609:

For myself in pvp I’ve been playing condtion mesmer fire/confusion/torment for more hp/s and it cuts through the defenses warriors and rangers have where they take zero damage for a short time. Also 2 on a scepter is a great way to wear down thives or anyone else wanting a piece of Cat Mage. That torment damage adds up

Warriors have amazing resistance uptime, so unless you have a strip they can negate all of your condition damage for long periods of time. Also cleansing Ire on any AoE burst weapon is assured to pick up free clone hits, proccing its cleansing.

You need to fight better warriors.

Curunen.8729:

lol, good – at least the vitriol of the mob will be directed elsewhere.

Yeah good luck with that

Yes. i think problem is staff. When you are using it a good warrior, who is able to follow the real mesmer wrecks you. I know play something different. I have problem against warriors but i win them quite often .
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vhAQRArf8enknBlphNqBmqBEgilXjCNAypj4sICikreYP2lF-TJRHABBcUAA4FAo7+DIVGAA
You lose mobility of staff but you can handle quite well condi and direct damage.
Nullfield helps a lot against warrior and necromancers and stealth helps you to really for putting down your aoe fields which are interruptible .

PierPiero.9142:

Yes. i think problem is staff. When you are using it a good warrior, who is able to follow the real mesmer wrecks you. I am now playing something different. I have problem against warriors but i win them quite often .
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vhAQRArf8enknBlphNqBmqBEgilXjCNAypj4sICikreYP2lF-TJRHABBcUAA4FAo7+DIVGAA
You lose mobility of staff but you can handle quite well condi and direct damage.
Nullfield helps a lot against warrior and necromancers and stealth helps you to really for putting down your aoe fields which are interruptible .

Ross Biddle.2367:

Greasy.7609:

For myself in pvp I’ve been playing condtion mesmer fire/confusion/torment for more hp/s and it cuts through the defenses warriors and rangers have where they take zero damage for a short time. Also 2 on a scepter is a great way to wear down thives or anyone else wanting a piece of Cat Mage. That torment damage adds up

Warriors have amazing resistance uptime, so unless you have a strip they can negate all of your condition damage for long periods of time. Also cleansing Ire on any AoE burst weapon is assured to pick up free clone hits, proccing its cleansing.

You need to fight better warriors.

yes warrior are tricky and somewhat counter to condi mesmer.

i found that AT works nice on them if oyu time your removal when they use the signet
null field also can work if you CS with it so you can doable null field on an area so on small cap point it can work wonder as you can get the cap. but have to be very carefull from stun lock to death especialy with carrion

I’m not entirely sure where your sPvP Condi Mesmers went.. but all I see in WvW are Condi Mesmers so.. o____O

Don’t think I’ve ever met a decent Mesmer who’s had problems mowing down a Warrior either, regardless of build.. can kite em’ for days.. the bad ones.. get eaten alive tho.. ^____^

eXruina.4956:

I’m not entirely sure where your sPvP Condi Mesmers went.. but all I see in WvW are Condi Mesmers so.. o____O

Don’t think I’ve ever met a decent Mesmer who’s had problems mowing down a Warrior either, regardless of build.. can kite em’ for days.. the bad ones.. get eaten alive tho.. ^____^

in wvw its open field. in pvp you have to fight on point which most are small. so if you kite you lose the point to the warrior so no point in fighting in 1 min fight or even more

In WvW it has gone from “oh a condi Mes, I remember that!” to “Guys, when was the last time you saw another Mesmer of any build type in WvW?” Played a nice 7 hour session with my guild group Friday evening and we saw like two Mesmers attempting to run boon share builds and that was it. One of them switched to Reaper after we mowed them down a few times.

Ah my apologies this is in fact a thread about Mes in sPvP and I thought about fights in general and WvW, my comment was out of place.

Yeah I get the mechanics.. they can’t afford to kite off node too long.. gotta take the War out fast or contest otherwise its moot.

eXruina.4956:

Ah my apologies this is in fact a thread about Mes in sPvP and I thought about fights in general and WvW, my comment was out of place.

Yeah I get the mechanics.. they can’t afford to kite off node too long.. gotta take the War out fast or contest otherwise its moot.

It’s an inevetable decap for the defending mes. Your best bet is to knowingly forfeit the point out of hand, and hope you can outplay them, defeat, and recap.

The smartest thing to do is rotate as soon as you lose the cap. You should have portal. Drop it, port back if the node becomes free and unwatched.

For sure boon rip has become much more of an effective option to build in. More than likely this means domination line to take shattered concentration. Null field is just too much of a risk vs signet of illusions (assuming you’re taking insp line and portal). The stab/resistance stab from various meta comps is definitely a problem, at least in PvP.

skcamow.3527:

For sure boon rip has become much more of an effective option to build in. More than likely this means domination line to take shattered concentration. Null field is just too much of a risk vs signet of illusions (assuming you’re taking insp line and portal). The stab/resistance stab from various meta comps is definitely a problem, at least in PvP.

Yeah. I feel VERY powerful when on lockdown mes, running boonstrip in str line.

It’s a similar feeling to running double might sig on warrior with everyone and their dog spamming blocks/reflects XD

Ross Biddle.2367:

skcamow.3527:

For sure boon rip has become much more of an effective option to build in. More than likely this means domination line to take shattered concentration. Null field is just too much of a risk vs signet of illusions (assuming you’re taking insp line and portal). The stab/resistance stab from various meta comps is definitely a problem, at least in PvP.

Yeah. I feel VERY powerful when on lockdown mes, running boonstrip in str line.

It’s a similar feeling to running double might sig on warrior with everyone and their dog spamming blocks/reflects XD

It’s finally happened, another Mesmer main jumped to another class to the level of frogetting the names of trait lines. It is a sad day indeed.

apharma.3741:

Ross Biddle.2367:

skcamow.3527:

For sure boon rip has become much more of an effective option to build in. More than likely this means domination line to take shattered concentration. Null field is just too much of a risk vs signet of illusions (assuming you’re taking insp line and portal). The stab/resistance stab from various meta comps is definitely a problem, at least in PvP.

Yeah. I feel VERY powerful when on lockdown mes, running boonstrip in str line.

It’s a similar feeling to running double might sig on warrior with everyone and their dog spamming blocks/reflects XD

It’s finally happened, another Mesmer main jumped to another class to the level of frogetting the names of trait lines. It is a sad day indeed.

Lol, I just re-read my post, realised, refreshed, and saw your comment XD

ohno

Simonoly.4352:

In WvW it has gone from “oh a condi Mes, I remember that!” to “Guys, when was the last time you saw another Mesmer of any build type in WvW?” Played a nice 7 hour session with my guild group Friday evening and we saw like two Mesmers attempting to run boon share builds and that was it. One of them switched to Reaper after we mowed them down a few times.

Condi builds have access to dire and Perplexity in WvW. With it they can have similar or higher DPS to their power counterparts while remaining durable. Power got the shaft when it needed 3 stat routing through toughness vs condi needing one or two.

If dire or perplex were in sPvP, we would see a ton of condi mesmers.

Straegen.2938:

Simonoly.4352:

In WvW it has gone from “oh a condi Mes, I remember that!” to “Guys, when was the last time you saw another Mesmer of any build type in WvW?” Played a nice 7 hour session with my guild group Friday evening and we saw like two Mesmers attempting to run boon share builds and that was it. One of them switched to Reaper after we mowed them down a few times.

Condi builds have access to dire and Perplexity in WvW. With it they can have similar or higher DPS to their power counterparts while remaining durable. Power got the shaft when it needed 3 stat routing through toughness vs condi needing one or two.

If dire or perplex were in sPvP, we would see a ton of condi mesmers.

This is true, but it doesn’t really translate well in WvW anymore as the armour stat has less meaning due to inflated direct damage numbers – it’s very easy to spike down a condi Mes through their natural sustain now, well, much easier than it used to be. I’m in the process of getting my Mesmer some Viper’s/Sinister armour as the sustain of rabid/dire just isn’t worth it anymore – I need to just be killing people quicker so they have less time to use their high damage skills. So in that respects it’s just like my full zerk setup but with a different flavour.

I did see a relatively tanky condi Mes in WvW yesterday actually, but unfortunately for him, I was on my power Thief, so he exploded very quickly within 3 Unloads. I was pretty shocked – most people die after just 2 Unloads :P