Guild Wars 2

hey ppl
here is another mtd video in tpvp arena
i tried several tactics here like taking far solo and group play,
with moa can take enemy very fast 1v1 while on point
with group play can support with nice aoe condi pressure
can handle almost any 1v1 not like power shatter who wont try several as it would just loose time and cant hole point

hope you like it

i still got thief reflex thast why you see me dodging too much even when not necessary

Two things:

1) wtf is your asura?!?

2) more importantly, one thing I noticed that we do differently in how we MTD. You seem to open mostly with CoF as your first shatter. I will 99% of the time open up with MW. This is because I expect many players to use a big condi clear when they see 6+ torment and the additional confusion and various other conditions on them. I then wait 12s for MW to come off cooldown, and repeat a MW → Images → CoF. Using CoF first makes me wait an extra 10+ seconds to burst before its back on cooldown.

Nice video and well played!

I too prefer to MW first though to draw the early cleanses, and then CoF on them right after. I think the mix of damage sources between Scepter, Staff clones, and shatters makes for a lot of possible rotations & combinations, which makes MtD harder to play successfully then people think.

Those rotations and knowing your enemies cleanse & heal options are what make the difference between being average and being good, and only the latter can compete in competitive group play using MtD Shatter…and thus so many people it is not viable.

What is your build, 4/4/0/0/6 with boon strip?

Windwalker.7421:

What is your build, 4/4/0/0/6 with boon strip?

I can’t be sure for the entire video, but for much of it he is 04406. (staff trait). Same build I run when MTD.

Yeah I like the added survivability that 04406 gives, and the staff CD reduction is of course also really nice. Thanks

alanis.6094:

Two things:

1) wtf is your asura?!?

2) more importantly, one thing I noticed that we do differently in how we MTD. You seem to open mostly with CoF as your first shatter. I will 99% of the time open up with MW. This is because I expect many players to use a big condi clear when they see 6+ torment and the additional confusion and various other conditions on them. I then wait 12s for MW to come off cooldown, and repeat a MW -> Images -> CoF. Using CoF first makes me wait an extra 10+ seconds to burst before its back on cooldown.

1. asura is my eu account, and human on my na account. i have started to play na after on metabattle the admin want to duel me to test the build i have posted there. they gave it 3
2. i like to open in several ways
f1 gives little dmg and confusion and 2 torment and might
f2 gives 2 confusion and torment
f3 gives 1 confusion 2 torment and daze

my tactic is to bait thier utilities use earlier then mine with hard condi pressure. so i f3 daze to bait the stunbreak and condition cleanse, f2 to put again double conditions on them , f1 when needed against hard cleaners to further pressure usually f2 is ready again in the rotation

sometimes i go f1+f2+f3

also i like to bait cleanse with #2 scepter

i play 0,4,4,0,6 build with staff trait or mirror of anguish with krait runes or nightmare

krait for more pu playing around with clones – u can see 23 stacks of bleeding in the warrior with 2k bleeding dps and burning
nightmare – good against engi/thieves with fear and mirror the disable to them to break down their opening on me.

i am still try to find the best tactic and role with this build on tpvp. although most ppl say its not usable in tpvp
but:
1. great build 1v1 – so can camp far or close
2. good condi aoe pressure on point but not if there are ele and guardian
3. can stay on point not like thieves or power mesmer
4. great build against the cele meta or bunkering meta if play right while thieves and power mesmer wont even try them out.
5. i dont use portal as i have to loose 1 utility like condi cleanse or MI so bit more risky so i guess its not our role to travel fast

after dueling a bit i can say i have problem against d/p thieves as they are hard counter to this build with blind aoe ,stealth, condi cleanse
but any other build its 50%-90% win (in tpvp)
against condi build its more 50% win as who can pressure harder and longer
but with moa its almost 80% win (not so common with condi build – so surprise surprise)

here is 2 tutorials i made after been asked
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAsQEXbi15k&list
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuIUr2W-9JY&feature=youtu.be

Messiah:

So I’ve constantly struggled with what condi clear I’m gonna use for MTD. I almost always end up at Resolve, which I frankly find an obnoxious cleanse to use; I really hate charging it up again. That being said, 4 clears per 20s is solid. I used to always run AT in WvW, with Menders, but shelved it in PvP because of the long CD.

So my question — have you ever tried dropping DD for Manipulation cooldowns? I ran through your videos, and very rarely have I noticed clone deaths. I actually didn’t notice one single weakness proc at all. With the nature of MTD being to shatter so often, I’m going to try this switch and give it a go and report back.

I love MTD, and we haven’t seen many threads since its initial push. I honestly think MTD is the answer to the cele meta. When I play on my MTD build, I easily rip through cele ele/engi with ease.

Anyway, I know you’ve been playing MTD for a while now, so I’ll check your vids out later!

To answer Alanis, I usually have pDisenchater in my MTD builds. It’s condi clear, it’s boon rip and it’s clone generation for shattering. I think the synergy is amazing in this way.

alanis.6094:

Messiah:

So I’ve constantly struggled with what condi clear I’m gonna use for MTD. I almost always end up at Resolve, which I frankly find an obnoxious cleanse to use; I really hate charging it up again. That being said, 4 clears per 20s is solid. I used to always run AT in WvW, with Menders, but shelved it in PvP because of the long CD.

So my question — have you ever tried dropping DD for Manipulation cooldowns? I ran through your videos, and very rarely have I noticed clone deaths. I actually didn’t notice one single weakness proc at all. With the nature of MTD being to shatter so often, I’m going to try this switch and give it a go and report back.

this is why i love this trait so much (evev over the power shatter) as it enable you to choose any trait you think is better for your game style and to adept easily before each match
i like DD trait. i practice a lot so my clones wont get killed rather shattered. but in some cases like with guardians ,ele and other aoe classes DD is good skills.
regarding condi cleanse- it puts you same as power shatter which run without condi cleanse. mantra is good one in group play as its aoe cleanse also fast one and hard to interrupt . arcane is also good one 1v1 as i like to grab stability 10 might stacks from ele or warrior and some regen (in the movie i got long regen and vigor time from the ele)
also PD is good but as i like to shatter a lot and fast i dont want to kill it if he is not targeted .

so choose what ever suit you best

Yah, I’d try PD more often if it wasn’t for the silly cast time. I shatter too much and often feel like I waste him when using it.

alanis.6094:

Yah, I’d try PD more often if it wasn’t for the silly cast time. I shatter too much and often feel like I waste him when using it.

Shattering too much is a problem I had initially but your staff clones do STUPID damage with IE trained and once I stopped shattering every time I had my clones up and rather waited for appropriate times, I noticed my win rate spike.

I get it though- shattering can be too fun NOT to sometimes :p

Snakebyte.2804:

alanis.6094:

Yah, I’d try PD more often if it wasn’t for the silly cast time. I shatter too much and often feel like I waste him when using it.

Shattering too much is a problem I had initially but your staff clones do STUPID damage with IE trained and once I stopped shattering every time I had my clones up and rather waited for appropriate times, I noticed my win rate spike.

I get it though- shattering can be too fun NOT to sometimes :p

Shatter scepter, kite staff.

I usually run no condition cleanse on MtD shatter builds. And I usually roam in WvW with it. However, if I play against another condition heavy mesmer build, I am in trouble. The condi bursts of other professions can be easily avoided.