Guild Wars 2

so what are you toughs regarding condi shatter in tpvp

illusion , dueling, chaos –
chaos – instead of pu i take BD for stability and CD for chaos armor protection and MM for manipulation.
dueling – DE, EM and DD . pistol dont know yet also dueling line hardly net a condition if i constant shatter so it push maybe more on not slow and not fast playstyle . but DE is a must

or maybe instead of chaos take the new chronomancer with the ability to create clone when i shatter and phantasm and then dueling line might work as more illusion will have the time to use thier skills to inflict confusion and bleeding
but loosing chaos line stability , protection while other class gaining more dmg modifier

weapons:
staff is still a must for aoe and good condi covers with AA
scepter the same.
torch will cleanse conditions to save some utility spot and aoe blind and burning and blast finisher
while shield bring some nice 2 block and stun and nice team buff

mmmm…. what you say guys

Why BD over PU? Prevent yourself from getting hit in the first place is better than anticipating CC, BD only gives you 1 stack of stability and it doesn’t break stun. PU even synergize with your desperate decoy, giving you 6s of recovery time once you get hit below 50%.

This is probably what I’ll test out first
http://dulfy.net/gw2traits#build=AgMF-AKcA-g~

Then I’ll test this out against condi meta
http://dulfy.net/gw2traits#build=AgMF-AKsBKQ~

This is a tricky one, but I might try out with scepter+pistol/staff in WvW just for lol. See if iDuelists can stack respectable bleed/confusion if I want to change strategy in mid fight (eg. against foe who knows condi shatter well).
http://dulfy.net/gw2traits#build=AgMFvALsBmg~

EDIT: forgot to add Maim into it lol

Plus torch CD reduces more the longer you stay in stealth. There really isn’t a reason not to go for PU my friend :P

1 sec of stealth while in pvp and being need to contest points is not so good but stability versus warrior, thief, ele, engi can be good though as its got no internal cd
for wvw sure pu ftw.

so no shield which can block twice and stun and give you chaos armor with staff PhaseR

also does the lost of DD trait which proc conditions when clones dies can be compensate by wanting your illusion to stay alive longer to proc bleed and confusion with their attacks rather then shatter them ??

also if i press F5 and get conditions on me and i press F5 again does it cleanse them or i just get back to my previous hp pool ?

messiah.1908:

also if i press F5 and get conditions on me and i press F5 again does it cleanse them or i just get back to my previous hp pool ?

I think it was stated that f5 does not clean conditions.

Yoseue.4251:

messiah.1908:

also if i press F5 and get conditions on me and i press F5 again does it cleanse them or i just get back to my previous hp pool ?

I think it was stated that f5 does not clean conditions.

if i get direct dmg which lower my hp and press F5 i will get back to my previous HP and my enemy will need to hit me again
so why if i get conditions which lower my hp and press F5 shouldnt do the same

DE-PU-MtD will probably be my set up. Need nothing else, plus we get some extra condi and survivability.

messiah.1908:

Yoseue.4251:

messiah.1908:

also if i press F5 and get conditions on me and i press F5 again does it cleanse them or i just get back to my previous hp pool ?

I think it was stated that f5 does not clean conditions.

if i get direct dmg which lower my hp and press F5 i will get back to my previous HP and my enemy will need to hit me again
so why if i get conditions which lower my hp and press F5 shouldnt do the same

Don’t ask me. I could be wrong though, so better check the stream again.

CP PU MtD Trying to get away from DE http://dulfy.net/gw2traits#build=AgMGWAP4Bfw~

I will be doing Dueling, inspiration, Illusions

Desperate decoy, blinding dissipation, deceptive evasion
(shatters can crit and I’ll be applying one stack of confusion per crit)

Menders purity, restorative Illusions, shattered conditions
(I sustain through shattering, this is versus PU where you stop using damaging shatters while in stealth as they reveal you. The longer I’m not in stealth the more I can contest a point.)

The pledge, malicious sorcery, maim the disillusioned
(this brings condi removal to an ungodly level even disregarding possible utility skills. The possibility to remove at least six conditions every ten seconds is quite cool. The amount of torment and confusion we will apply is insane.)

Daniel Handler.4816:

I will be doing Dueling, inspiration, Illusions

Desperate decoy, blinding dissipation, deceptive evasion
(shatters can crit and I’ll be applying one stack of confusion per crit)

Menders purity, restorative Illusions, shattered conditions
(I sustain through shattering, this is versus PU where you stop using damaging shatters while in stealth as they reveal you. The longer I’m not in stealth the more I can contest a point.)

The pledge, malicious sorcery, maim the disillusioned
(this brings condi removal to an ungodly level even disregarding possible utility skills. The possibility to remove at least six conditions every ten seconds is quite cool. The amount of torment and confusion we will apply is insane.)

I actually really like this variation. I think that chaos (PU) will still be optimal if you’re roaming WvW with it, but this is a really nice point bunker variation. The only issue is that you don’t have any reflects, which I normally see as semi-essential with all the lb rangers knocking about. You could solve that problem by taking evasive mirror instead of blinding dissipation. It would definitely weaken you against melee pressure, but it would give you a nice defensive boost against long range attacks.

With the inclusion of IP as baseline I no longer feel as much pressure to include mirror images into the build, as such feedback is a possible utility. One could theoretically go mantra of concentration, feedback, and blink

Daniel Handler.4816:

I will be doing Dueling, inspiration, Illusions

Desperate decoy, blinding dissipation, deceptive evasion
(shatters can crit and I’ll be applying one stack of confusion per crit)

Menders purity, restorative Illusions, shattered conditions
(I sustain through shattering, this is versus PU where you stop using damaging shatters while in stealth as they reveal you. The longer I’m not in stealth the more I can contest a point.)

The pledge, malicious sorcery, maim the disillusioned
(this brings condi removal to an ungodly level even disregarding possible utility skills. The possibility to remove at least six conditions every ten seconds is quite cool. The amount of torment and confusion we will apply is insane.)

cool idea but i think atm maybe its too much condi cleanse but we have to w8 to see how the meta will change in pvp

so far atm i run with no condi cleanse and doing fine