need some advise - Rune's for condi mesmer

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Posted by: JUN YANG.4328

JUN YANG.4328

Hi guys

i want to change runes for my condition mesmer,
trait:
4/4/0/0/6
armor (pvc)
Rune: “Rune of the Nightmare”

Weapon:
Staff:
(Sigil of Malice)
(Sigil of Bursting)
Greatsword:
(Sigil of Malice)
(Sigil of Corruption)

i still not sure which rune its better for mesmer:
“Rune of Tormenting” or “Rune of Perplexity”

most of time i use F1 ~F4 ( clones) to do the condition damage: i both got confusion and torment damage.

can anyone give me some advise

thanks

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Posted by: fluxit.8247

fluxit.8247

Torment runes are overkill and perplexity are overpriced. Just go with runes of the traveler for greater mobility or stay with nightmare runes.

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Posted by: JUN YANG.4328

JUN YANG.4328

thanks for the advise fluxit.
do you think sigil i used its good enough or it had better option?

thanks

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Posted by: Advent.6193

Advent.6193

Depends on the environment, really. I’d definitely go with Traveler in WvW. That extra speed helps catch up to fools what think they can play hit-and-run with a Mes.
Perplexity (anymore) is arguably niche. Mesmers (hell, any class) made better use of ’em before the #6 got an ICD put on it.

Also, I’d swap that armor from Carrion (p/v/C) to Rabid (prec/t/C) or Rabid with about 1/3 Dire (t/v/C). Especially running a 4/4/0/0/6, since that Trait spread is … glass-tastic. Not to mention, the Precision helps with bleeds from Sharper Images.
But, that’s just my 2 coppers.

Malegryne (Sylvari Mesmer), Lannka (Asura Thief) – Ferguson’s Crossing: [PRD/BRB/OMFG]
Other 80s: Any but Warrior

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Posted by: Hamster.4861

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If you’re using a condi shatter – then you should go for Tormenting runes. They’ll work with MTD and your other weapon sigils the best.

If you’re going to play CI condi lockdown – then you want Plex runes. Perplexity is cancer though, and you will not earn anyone’s respect running that rune set in WvW

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Posted by: JUN YANG.4328

JUN YANG.4328

thanks advent. i may think to use traveler on wvw, cause i played pvp most of time lol.

i though about use prec/ t /c. um.. is it in this case prec become useless? ( just what i though) if scepter and touch i will consider (t/v/c)

because i used staff and gs thats why i go for pvc. will give me some power so when i use gs skill 4 can do some damage. so i pick (ppf) for gs. do i need to swap spec? (my gs is eternity)

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Posted by: Ross Biddle.2367

Ross Biddle.2367

If you’re using a condi shatter – then you should go for Tormenting runes. They’ll work with MTD and your other weapon sigils the best.

If you’re going to play CI condi lockdown – then you want Plex runes. Perplexity is cancer though, and you will not earn anyone’s respect running that rune set in WvW

So long as you win, you’ll have mine.

If your opponent can’t respect his defeat that’s on him.

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Posted by: JUN YANG.4328

JUN YANG.4328

sorry guys, i dont really get, whats CI condition lockdown mean?? why won’t respect opponent by using that rune?

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Posted by: Ross Biddle.2367

Ross Biddle.2367

sorry guys, i dont really get, whats CI condition lockdown mean?? why won’t respect opponent by using that rune?

Lol.

So CI condition lockdown is a build that uses Chaotic Interruption, a 6 point Grandmaster trait int he Chaos line. Your build is very different so don’t worry about it.

As for perplexity rune, some players create made up rules in their minds that state some build options as “cheese” “lame” “no skill” “cheap” “disrespectable” or whatever words you can think of. As a good player you should ignore this sort of bad thinking. It’s the talk of scrubs who aren’t here to play the game, rather play their own made up game that nobody else is, or has to play. Ignore them. Play the game with whatever rune is available to you, and pick the ones that give you whatever edge you need.

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Posted by: JUN YANG.4328

JUN YANG.4328

oic. thanks Ross.

that make sense. it feel like i should keep my “Rune of the Nightmare” lol or use traveller on wvw.

one more question Ross. should i change spec for my gs?

TA

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Posted by: Ross Biddle.2367

Ross Biddle.2367

oic. thanks Ross.

that make sense. it feel like i should keep my “Rune of the Nightmare” lol or use traveller on wvw.

one more question Ross. should i change spec for my gs?

TA

We have stronger weapon loadouts for condition mesmers. Some do like the GS for the clone aa to stack bleeds. Personally I wouldn’t run GS myself.

Staff, scepter/torch, scepter/pistol, scepter/focus, are all options. Or scepter/X sword/focus. However since you’re obviously going for a near full shatter condi application approach, staff/GS might just do the job well enough. Up to you.

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Posted by: fluxit.8247

fluxit.8247

If you want to get the most out of conditions like torment and confusion you should use at least 1 scepter. The 5 torment stacks on block and 5 confusion stacks on channel are very good. The torch off hand also applies 3 stacks of confusion and blinds and burns. When you combine this with shatters your confusion stacks are high enough without perplexity runes.

If all you want to do is increase your condition duration you can acheive this by combining trapper runes and nightnare runes and food.

If you want more condition damage and survivability then replace your gear with ctp or ctv gear.

When I roam with condition shatter (because thats what it excels at and not much else) I use mainly c/t/p gear and mix in some settlers gear t/h/c for extra toughness. Because its a roaming spec and you need to rely more on yourself. You need swiftness unless you have no problem with running like a snail and getting chased down by havoc groups. So I use runes of the traveler for the 25 percent run speed increase.

In a 1v1 in wvw condition shatter is almost a guaranteed win. Not a lot of classes can deal with how fast you can throw out conditions. They clear them but they just keep getting reapplied. This is without gimmicky torment runes or perplexity runes.

Edit: I say gimmicky because torment and perplexity runes are very. Torment runes would increase your torment duration but with food and 4 points into domination your torment stacks should last for more than 10 secs and you can stack a lot of them.

(edited by fluxit.8247)

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Posted by: JUN YANG.4328

JUN YANG.4328

thanks guys. really helpful. i may think about how to rebuild my mesmer after. thanks for the advise fluxit.

cheers