So, given how most mesmers in WTS had very little impact do you think we’ve seen an end to most of the nerd crys?
Unlikely. People on both sides of the argument will only cite pro players opinions/actions when it suits them. I still maintain that the crying won’t stop until mesmers are literally the same or worse than pre-patch and chronomancer is literally not worth taking in any build.
Why are we arguing? These people are playing the legendary 6/6/6/6/6/6 build. Able to spawn phantasms capable of constantly attacking with no cooldown. Clones that override your targeting, making you have to reclick on that pesky mesmer. Every shatter gains mind wrack in addition to their other effects, like applying Confusion, Torment, Might, and Vulnerability. Distortion is always readily available, despite being on a 40s cooldown. Able to use both MI and TW in a single fight. Uses Decoy and Desperate Decoy to bypass Revealed. 100% Slow uptime on enemies with permanent AoE pulsing Alacrity to all allies. Able to both (yes, both) stealth with Torch while spawning Duelist, Berserker, and Swordsman with a single weapon swap (or two). PU for infinite stealth whether or not you’re slotting Mimic… and more, duhhhhhh.
Why are we arguing? These people are playing the legendary 6/6/6/6/6/6 build. Able to spawn phantasms capable of constantly attacking with no cooldown. Clones that override your targeting, making you have to reclick on that pesky mesmer. Every shatter gains mind wrack in addition to their other effects, like applying Confusion, Torment, Might, and Vulnerability. Distortion is always readily available, despite being on a 40s cooldown. Able to use both MI and TW in a single fight. Uses Decoy and Desperate Decoy to bypass Revealed. 100% Slow uptime on enemies with permanent AoE pulsing Alacrity to all allies. Able to both (yes, both) stealth with Torch while spawning Duelist, Berserker, and Swordsman with a single weapon swap (or two). PU for infinite stealth whether or not you’re slotting Mimic… and more, duhhhhhh.
That’s fine and all, talking about those baseline mesmer capabilities, but what traits would you take with that?
I think the one that make you automatically win on join is decent, but the one that reset the opponents to rank 1 could help a buff. Not troll enough.
Why are we arguing? These people are playing the legendary 6/6/6/6/6/6 build. Able to spawn phantasms capable of constantly attacking with no cooldown. Clones that override your targeting, making you have to reclick on that pesky mesmer. Every shatter gains mind wrack in addition to their other effects, like applying Confusion, Torment, Might, and Vulnerability. Distortion is always readily available, despite being on a 40s cooldown. Able to use both MI and TW in a single fight. Uses Decoy and Desperate Decoy to bypass Revealed. 100% Slow uptime on enemies with permanent AoE pulsing Alacrity to all allies. Able to both (yes, both) stealth with Torch while spawning Duelist, Berserker, and Swordsman with a single weapon swap (or two). PU for infinite stealth whether or not you’re slotting Mimic… and more, duhhhhhh.
Humm you are forgetting the new flavour… You will mostlikely add few more things (cause the nerf train wont stop and will always find new excuses to qq), but dont forget to add at the end of the list:
“And all of that can be made x2 cause the F5!!!!!” (permantly and just upsides! cause having 20s cd on your heal or other skills before u pop f5, after the amazing 100 seconds f5 provide to double all phantasm spawn and elite pop and shatter faceroll, you return back in time but your cd will be ready and just then you enemy looses the petrify effect from a invis box of fun that made him unable to move or press buttons for the entire time).
ps: also, the same box of fun gave you the purple color, cause rigged.
I think people are just upset because
1) anet made Mesmer a lot better while not touching ranger much, “killing” engi, and “limiting” other classes to only one spec
2) Mesmer has multiple builds that can be used in PvP efficiently and that means the normal way to counter shatter Mesmer won’t work all the time(this is a L2P issue)
3) Stealth uptime has always been a problem and will always be a problem. People don’t like fighting against stealth. PU mesmers, especially condi, only through fuel to the fire.
4) people would rather complain on the forums than roll a Mesmer or phone a friend for help to see why they’re having problems against mesmers.
4.5) those that do roll a Mesmer get their information from hitting golems in HoTM which don’t attack back so the 15%(Pyro can correct me if that number is wrong XD) damage increase procs and “one shots” the golem. Then they move to an arena and have a guard stand still to do the same thing.
5) People at further upset that Chrono is a highly viable elite spec compared to the others released at beta which means it outshines their class. That isn’t supposed to happen.
6) overall people don’t like butterflies, don’t understand the cd’s on ports/invulns, and the class as a whole so blame some magical build where we spec into every line taking every trait.
I also believe that mostly mesmer players truly enjoy fighting against other mesmers – based on the assumption that if you enjoy playing a class because of its theme you also enjoy fighting against the same class as an enemy.
Of course that doesn’t mean other class players don’t enjoy fighting mesmers – for example even pre patch my favourite match up was playing power shatter vs thieves, because it was extremely enjoyable even if we were at a disadvantage.
Some other mains who barely or never play mesmer by extension most likely do not enjoy fighting against mesmers – hence the endless complaints.
Add to that the fact that mesmers are designed to be annoying, manipulative, and punishing enemy mistakes makes for the worst case of profession hatred in the game.
Then you could add other assumptions like a player doesn’t like their “badas(s) warrior” to lose to a “pink butterfly/fairy” out of irrational hatred.
