Guild Wars 2

Ok so I have played thief and necro in wvw roaming. Thief is not really for me and I love my necro but he folds under focus fire due to lack of escape mechanics, ran a hybrid 30/25/0/0/15 high damage low defense build. Seemed to me Mesmer is the in between of the two.

for roaming I settles on the 20/20/30/0/0(hybrid build). I like GS/sword torch for weapons. My question is with the consistent endurance regen for dodge, the ability to stealth and always having clones out how much defense do I really want to stack? Should the 300 tough from spec be good or do I want gear with tough on it? I’m leaning towards not doing it since the class has good ways to avoid damage just wondering what more experienced mesmers have found.

You really should not need any toughness at all. Stacking Defence is a crotch for lack of skill. Between clones and stealth and dodge you should not be hit much at all. That’s just imo. Others may disagree.

if you put a few pts into heal line you can get pretty consistent protection as well.

I’m wondering where damage comes from with that trait + weapon set up… And why do you call it a hybrid? Sword and greatsword both are 100% direct damage.

I must be not seeing something here…

If its just a direct damage build instead of hybrid, go full Berserker. Add more toughness if needed, 2050 armor is low but better than nothing. 2400 is quite high, 2700 is very tanky, and probably overkill.

Mogar.9216:

You really should not need any toughness at all. Stacking Defence is a crotch for lack of skill. Between clones and stealth and dodge you should not be hit much at all. That’s just imo. Others may disagree.

if you put a few pts into Chaos line you can get pretty consistent protection as well.

You probably mean you get protection from Chaos minor master and Prismatic Undertanding. His traits already had 30 Chaos, so… :p

Alissah.9281:

I’m wondering where damage comes from with that trait + weapon set up… And why do you call it a hybrid? Sword and greatsword both are 100% direct damage.

I must be not seeing something here…

If its just a direct damage build instead of hybrid, go full Berserker. Add more toughness if needed, 2050 armor is low but better than nothing. 2400 is quite high, 2700 is very tanky, and probably overkill.

Mogar.9216:

You really should not need any toughness at all. Stacking Defence is a crotch for lack of skill. Between clones and stealth and dodge you should not be hit much at all. That’s just imo. Others may disagree.

if you put a few pts into Chaos line you can get pretty consistent protection as well.

You probably mean you get protection from Chaos minor master and Prismatic Undertanding. His traits already had 30 Chaos, so… :p

no I mean insp 15 passive with chaos 15 passive. It’s more or less protection on demand since you stand by a phantasm all the time, which I find much better than pu protection.

No I mean hybrid, chaos v, dueling 15, torch 4, torment sigil, with a mix of zerker and rampager I have 50% crit, 51% crit damage, 2135 power and 530 condition damage.

Mogar.9216:

no I mean insp 15 passive with chaos 15 passive. It’s more or less protection on demand since you stand by a phantasm all the time, which I find much better than pu protection.

It used to be that way a long time ago, but no longer. The chaos 15 minor has an internal cooldown of 15 seconds.

Pyroatheist.9031:

Mogar.9216:

no I mean insp 15 passive with chaos 15 passive. It’s more or less protection on demand since you stand by a phantasm all the time, which I find much better than pu protection.

It used to be that way a long time ago, but no longer. The chaos 15 minor has an internal cooldown of 15 seconds.

I once made a build that was compeltely built around that one trait… I got about 1 min protection over the course of a 30 second long fight…

Got +protection duration runes and all that kinda stuff.

I was super excited, because I finally made a raelly usefull build all by myself… 2 weeks later they gave it that 15 second intenral cooldown :P

I was sooooooo upset, and I just didn’t want to accept that it was way overpowered xD

@Mogar: Minor master Chaos means the 15 point :P

Pyroatheist.9031:

Mogar.9216:

no I mean insp 15 passive with chaos 15 passive. It’s more or less protection on demand since you stand by a phantasm all the time, which I find much better than pu protection.

It used to be that way a long time ago, but no longer. The chaos 15 minor has an internal cooldown of 15 seconds.

Yes I know. 3 sec protection every 15 secs is 25% up time if you are melee mesmer which is not bad at all. If you are ranged like me I just run toward a phantasm when I need protection or cast one beside me. i.e when I know a thief is gonna back stab me.

Mogar.9216:

Pyroatheist.9031:

Mogar.9216:

no I mean insp 15 passive with chaos 15 passive. It’s more or less protection on demand since you stand by a phantasm all the time, which I find much better than pu protection.

It used to be that way a long time ago, but no longer. The chaos 15 minor has an internal cooldown of 15 seconds.

Yes I know. 3 sec protection every 15 secs is 25% up time if you are melee mesmer which is not bad at all. If you are ranged like me I just run toward a phantasm when I need protection or cast one beside me. i.e when I know a thief is gonna back stab me.

Except wha actually happens is you know the thief is going to backstab you, but it already procced 10 seconds ago.

Pyroatheist.9031:

Mogar.9216:

Pyroatheist.9031:

Mogar.9216:

no I mean insp 15 passive with chaos 15 passive. It’s more or less protection on demand since you stand by a phantasm all the time, which I find much better than pu protection.

It used to be that way a long time ago, but no longer. The chaos 15 minor has an internal cooldown of 15 seconds.

Yes I know. 3 sec protection every 15 secs is 25% up time if you are melee mesmer which is not bad at all. If you are ranged like me I just run toward a phantasm when I need protection or cast one beside me. i.e when I know a thief is gonna back stab me.

Except wha actually happens is you know the thief is going to backstab you, but it already procced 10 seconds ago.

That really depends on play style. I play with GS/Staff so I’m no where close to my izerker when the fight starts. When I’m in trouble I switch to staff and proc a protection and stand in chaos field. Works pretty good most of the time. I ran with PU for a bit after the buff what I find was that I really don’t need any protection while in stealth but really missed not having it when I can’t stealth.