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Posted by: Carpboy.7145

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Thats what i use on my mesmer. Power PU for solo WvW


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Posted by: Carpboy.7145

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20/20/30/0/0 should be easy to figure out. Anything that boosts phantasms and PU


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Posted by: Xyonon.3987

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pve or wvw? :o

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Posted by: Ptolemy.5086

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I have same 20/20/30/0/0. This build is exelent for anything. Works well in WVW and PVE. Everything Zerk mixed with few knight. Armor should be close to 2500, HP 16-17 k and with bloodlust + oil+food attack goes over 3500. It is not really good for Zerg runs especially if you wonna follow commander close and it is not forgives any mistakes.
I run it with Scepter/pistol and GS. I don’t like sword in WVW. It is good in PVE tho.

My favored part is no need to retrain every time for different tasks.
There is much better DPS builds for PVE or dueling also better WVW survival cond builds. If you are interested look on forum. Sometimes when i wonna troll ppl in WVW with group of thievs i go 0/20/30/20 in DIre armor and trinkets. It has 14 sec of invis none stop, ower 2k cond dmg 25k hp and 3k armor. Scepter/torch + staff.

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Posted by: Kaiyanwan.8521

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I would go 25/30/0/0/15 for open world PvE.

It is actually the current installment of my Go Go Power Ranger Build, which I have to update at one point:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fgAQNAR8cl4zioHSTlGa9IB6DYnMDVn6SPwNvlNA-jgBBYfCyJPFRjtMsIas6aYKXER1mxFRrGA-e

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Posted by: Bloodgruve.6038

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I would go 25/30/0/0/15 for open world PvE.

It is actually the current installment of my Go Go Power Ranger Build, which I have to update at one point:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fgAQNAR8cl4zioHSTlGa9IB6DYnMDVn6SPwNvlNA-jgBBYfCyJPFRjtMsIas6aYKXER1mxFRrGA-e

I ran this last night in PvE. I had 2x might stacking guards with me and was getting some 12k Blurred Frenzy with 2x phantasms up a lot of the time. Zerker, 3x mantras and Signet of Illusions. Gotta be proactive about staying alive but its quite fun.

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Posted by: Carpboy.7145

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i don’t know about s/s with phantasm build – i’d rather go s/p and gs. any good phantasm build is going to have 25 pts in inspiration. i roll with 0/30/15/25/0 w/full zerker. it’s been amazing in getting me my champ illusionist title and twice as amazing in open world pve.

Thats not true at all. Any phantasm doesn’t need 25 in inspiration. You get the same thing with 10 domination anyway. And swordsmen can crit for 6k+ soooo…


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Posted by: Valarauka.2719

Valarauka.2719

You only really need Inspiration for the focus reflections; sure the regen is nice but it’s not really necessary. If you don’t want focus reflects, 25/30/0/0/15 is better dps. 15 points in chaos is nice for WvW survival but in PvE it’s entirely unnecessary.

And the duelist is in no way “highly superior”, they’re both very good offhands. Duelist adds more bleed pressure, but the swordsman has a higher single damage packet, and the line daze / block+counter can sometimes be more useful than Magic Bullet.

The other nice benefit of offhand sword is that it gets traited for “free” with blade training.

OF course, ll of this depends on whether the OP wants a build for PvE or PvP, which he hasn’t stated…

EDIT: Trebor – you do know that the number getting added up on the duelist channel is the cumulative damage, right? Also, the swordsman attacks faster unless you’ve traited for Phantasmal Haste, so there’s that too.

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Posted by: Valarauka.2719

Valarauka.2719

“lalalala I can’t hear you” isn’t a particularly effective argument strategy.
Just sayin’. :p

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Posted by: Carpboy.7145

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You mind backing up your claim as to why offhand sword is horrible? Its got a 5k+ block, and a hard hitting phantasm that attacks faster than duelist. ???


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Posted by: Carpboy.7145

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duelist is still better. that is all. lol duel swords…last time i ran into someone in arena with that trash phantasm build it was a joke lol. but i guess when it comes to pve, you do with anything

Build had nothing to do with it. You just faced a bad player


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Posted by: Pyroatheist.9031

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i guess you didn’t read the part where i said any GOOD phantasm build. duelist can crit 6k+ all hits, duelist is highly superior to a swordsman, just one 6k hit? sooooo… all i’m saying is inspiration phantasm builds are better than any other so called “phantasm build” players like to look past the regen, protection on regen, retaliation for phantasms. phantasm increased health + signet, movement speed for each phantasm out, and also including that 15% more damage for phantasms.

You must have failed to understand that domination III is exactly the same as inspiration 25. There is no effective difference between the 2 traits.

With regards to pistol phantasm vs sword phantasm, both are very good damage, and both have weaknesses. Duelist will suicide on retal and reflects, as well as attacking slower. The swordsman only attacks once, so less bleed stacking, and can be denied by the environment due to the melee leap.

The strongest dueling phantasm build I know of (mine) takes both.

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Posted by: Teloran.1594

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I believe that people have found that the sword’s phantasm is more powerful then the pistol’s if phantasmal haste is not taken. If it is, I think that they’re pretty similar. (link here:http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/84947-mesmerizing-the-enemy-guide-to-mesmer-swordx-dps-builds/ ). Another interesting finding in the thread was that scepter is a better off set for sword then GS since the GS’s phantasm isn’t great.

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Posted by: Bloodgruve.6038

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iZerker is quite good if you multiple targets. If not your strongest options are iSwordsman and iDuelist.

Unless you have focus traited n need reflects. Even then iSwordsman n iDuelist out perform iWarden for DPS.

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