[tPvP] Condition shatter build?

[tPvP] Condition shatter build?

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Posted by: Steinpilz.5078

Steinpilz.5078

Does someone know a shatter build for getting stacks of torment and confusion on people fast?
Shatter builds most are for direct damage, but I would like to try with a condition shatter build.

[tPvP] Condition shatter build?

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Posted by: Fay.2357

Fay.2357

There’s been quite a few threads on this forum discussing this exact topic that you’d find if you looked around at all. To save you the trouble though, I’ll summarize them all.

Condition shatter isn’t viable in any sense of the word other than as a curiosity or something different to play. It’s objectively worse at applying conditions than almost any other variant you can use.

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Posted by: MSFone.3026

MSFone.3026

There’s been quite a few threads on this forum discussing this exact topic that you’d find if you looked around at all. To save you the trouble though, I’ll summarize them all.

Condition shatter isn’t viable in any sense of the word other than as a curiosity or something different to play. It’s objectively worse at applying conditions than almost any other variant you can use.

I’d say this is def true 1v1, and maybe, I mean maybe as in this is the only way MtD is worth it at all and I haven’t really tested it, the only reason to take MtD is if you can reliably nail 3 people with your shatters in a group fight. Other than that I’d say ya this trait is just turning out to be pretty lame.

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Posted by: Steinpilz.5078

Steinpilz.5078

the only reason to take MtD is if you can reliably nail 3 people with your shatters in a group fight. Other than that I’d say ya this trait is just turning out to be pretty lame.

I don’t understand why this should be so.
Imagine a warrior with some stacks of torment and confusion, he should die fast.
Torment is a very powerful condition.

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Posted by: MSFone.3026

MSFone.3026

the only reason to take MtD is if you can reliably nail 3 people with your shatters in a group fight. Other than that I’d say ya this trait is just turning out to be pretty lame.

I don’t understand why this should be so.
Imagine a warrior with some stacks of torment and confusion, he should die fast.
Torment is a very powerful condition.

Yes, and you’ll apply more torment treating your scepter block to be on lower cd. scepter 2 so far outclasses MtD by itself it’s ridiculous. What’s worse is that if you are fighting some warrior and you are in MtD, then you also have IE, and it is a flat out loss in damage to shatter your clones rather than let the staff clones AA him down with IE. So scepter is still better at torment, and shattering your clones nerfs your dmg. That is why it is lame.

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Posted by: skcamow.3527

skcamow.3527

the only reason to take MtD is if you can reliably nail 3 people with your shatters in a group fight. Other than that I’d say ya this trait is just turning out to be pretty lame.

I don’t understand why this should be so.
Imagine a warrior with some stacks of torment and confusion, he should die fast.
Torment is a very powerful condition.

What’s worse is that if you are fighting some warrior and you are in MtD, then you also have IE, and it is a flat out loss in damage to shatter your clones rather than let the staff clones AA him down with IE.

Which is why taking IE is really counter intuitive in a MtD build, although it would seem blasphemous not to take it. Because shatters are so important to this build, I think I’d actually entertain the idea of using Illusionary Invigoration. I don’t really care for the trait, but having that F2 pop back up at 1/2 health just off CD would be really nice and borderline essential due to that longer 23s CD. Also – although weak, signet of illusions might be worth a look and you’d almost certainly need signet mastery to make it remotely worthwhile (which would work in a 4/4/0/0/6 build).

Ultimately notice what’s happening though, trying to take weak traits and utilities to make a condition shatter build viable.

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