Guild Wars 2

Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YctqwxqHt-I&feature=youtu.be

may i ask what build uses the pistol shooting clone and the hundred slash evade sword attack? heavy condi build. fought one mesmer with this build recently. I won the first fight and lost the second.

The only thing I know to dodge is when his clone starts pistol shooting me which stacks a lot of bleed.

Other than that I don’t know what to dodge or what to look out for. I can’t seem to dodge his teleport and bind + hundred slash evade move.

If the most notable thing you could discern was the bleeds from iDuelist, then my best guess would be Countless’ condi build , though if you noticed signets on the mesmer that would clinch it.

If so, one thing you can implement is dodging illusionary leap and swap (typically dodging when the clone appears next to you, but they can also use that to bait you). Killing the clone quickly before the swap can also stop the immobilize, but then you’ll eat the conditions from the clone death.

The best option is just dropping as many conditions are you can, and forcing them to blow their condition clears/distortions. If you can keep pressure up (and avoid hitting clones), you can come out of the fight alive.

edit: and if it’s not the condi clone death build, then you’re best option is still pretty much heavy condition pressure, it will screw with ~70% of mesmer builds.

i’ll post a video shortly. I managed to take a vid =D

here it is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YctqwxqHt-I&feature=youtu.be

Looks like a variation of a pu Mesmer. Using staff sword/pistol. Sacrifices defense the torch with more pressure from the duelist.

Hey, you!

That was indeed a condi pu variant that focused more on aggression/killing power than most builds of the sort, as I’m sure you noticed

I did my best Sherlocking as mobile allowed, and I got this:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fhAQNAsaWlknpRtFpxMNcrNSpxY6ccDpCo0nUeKA-T1hHwAW0HUS9niK/et/AgTBQgnAAUlgkCAm5AA-w

That linked, some notes!

• I left one trait blank because I really wasn’t sure. Well, I could have checked a bit more tightly, but eh! Same with runes. Everything else should be accurate!
• PU is the Chaos tree’s GM trait that grants an extra second of stealth, as well as some boons. It’s good—build defining.
• She can only cleanse 4 condis every 25s or so from her cleanse mantra. You can see the mantra on her profile bars with the wavy purple symbol when you have her selected. If you see she spent both its charges, she’s vulnerable!
• Instead of opting for torch for more stealth, it seems that he took pistol mastery to net him more killing power as well as an extra condi on clone death.
• Yes, there are condis on clone death, as you might know! He has all 3 traits: 2 are majors, 1’s a minor in the dueling tree.
• So, when fighting that! Let me guarantee that AoE’ing him near his pistol phantasms to delete them will take you miles. Honestly, it would’ve made that fight a pretty easy win; she really invested in those pistol phants and lost a lot of defense from traited torch. Add on avoiding the clones on-death traits, and you’d have that Mesmer tied up.
• You’re a pretty good player!

That’s all I have!
Oh, and Erasure’s “Always” is always fun to listen to

wow tyvm everyone, especially toalux

those notes and build helped a ton!

Maybe it was a signet build (see link in my signature). They’re easy to spot if they’re using signets and distortion.

While it’s a fantastic dueler, the best way to beat it is to unload an offensive front asap. This will force them to use their signets and lose out on their passive effects and condi clears. I’d also cleave iDuelist if possible.The longer the battle goes, the more likely the signet mesmer will win.

eta- oops just looked at the video. Definitely PU condi using pistol for bleeds over extra stealth with torch.

EremiteAngel.9765:

here it is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YctqwxqHt-I&feature=youtu.be

It’s interesting that you start the camp fight by drawing all the NPC’s into that narrow space, clustering them togeather. But when fighting the mes you didn’t think to use LoS to manipulate the Phant NPC’s.

If you have the benefit of LoS when fighting this guy, obstruct the view of the iDuelist. You could have used the supply dump or house behind it for example. That way you could dump your AoE on the corner and nuke the phantasms. That’d of removed the bleed pressure you were eating constantly throughout the fight (He had two Duelists up on you in the open).

you got a very good point boss riddle.

I rarely PvP though and I know PvP depends a lot on LOS. I just don’t have the habit to LOS in a fight as WvW is more open and there are many times when you encounter enemies in open areas with no obstacles.

It didn’t occur to me to LOS XD. But on hindsight, even if it did, I would rather not LOS as it’s like depending on other things to win a fight. I really dislike LOSing…unless a LB ranger caught me unaware lol…

EremiteAngel.9765:

But on hindsight, even if it did, I would rather not LOS as it’s like depending on other things to win a fight. I really dislike LOSing…unless a LB ranger caught me unaware lol…

Using LoS to win a fight is simply applying tactics and strategy. If I extend your argument of ’it’s like depending on other things to win a fight’ to its logical conclusion, you’ll end up fighting toe to toe, using only autoattacks, and never dodging. This obviously makes no sense.

Fight in the most skilled and tactful way possible. If you don’t win, find a way to enhance your skills and enhance your tactics until you do win.

EremiteAngel.9765:

you got a very good point boss riddle.

I rarely PvP though and I know PvP depends a lot on LOS. I just don’t have the habit to LOS in a fight as WvW is more open and there are many times when you encounter enemies in open areas with no obstacles.

It didn’t occur to me to LOS XD. But on hindsight, even if it did, I would rather not LOS as it’s like depending on other things to win a fight. I really dislike LOSing…unless a LB ranger caught me unaware lol…

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But on hindsight, even if it did, I would rather not LOS as it’s like depending on other things to win a fight. I really dislike LOSing

That’s a really weird thing to say. lol It’s a basic tactic that players use in any fight. You shouldn’t feel bad about utilizing it!

MailMail.6534:

But on hindsight, even if it did, I would rather not LOS as it’s like depending on other things to win a fight. I really dislike LOSing

That’s a really weird thing to say. lol It’s a basic tactic that players use in any fight. You shouldn’t feel bad about utilizing it!

If rifle weilding soldiers don’t utilize LoS in a warzone, they get to go home in a body bag.

If ancient style sword and board soldiers didn’t utilize their shield for a bit of on demand LoS’ing, they’d get peppered with arrows, or catch a sword in the gut. I don’t think Julies Caesar’s empire would have come together quite so well if his legions were forced with a “no hiding behind your shields, boys.” policy : D

true true, I’m not against ppl using LOS since I think it is legit tactics.
But to win someone because you hid behind something is not something I want to do! Not against anyone who does it though. Everyone has their own way of thinking and playing =D

EremiteAngel.9765:

true true, I’m not against ppl using LOS since I think it is legit tactics.
But to win someone because you hid behind something is not something I want to do! Not against anyone who does it though. Everyone has their own way of thinking and playing =D

Each to their own I guess. I’ll continue demolishing people that constrict themselves with odd and artificial rules of fighting, and folks like you will continue to get demolished by those that play to win.

well and when I do win against players who LOS, I rejoice even more.

Sadly it seems that we will lose the extra 300 range from pistol. The new trait for the iDuelist is good. But with the new more vertical maps incoming… is a big hit. And have 1200 range too good in a lot of situations. Unfortunately the iMage orbs are too slow.

mesmers are too strong already imo. they are only weak against thieves if they are not a burst mesmer. they should get some nerf in the new exp. but instead they get overwhelming buff to put them on par with thieves…

EremiteAngel.9765:

mesmers are too strong already imo. they are only weak against thieves if they are not a burst mesmer. they should get some nerf in the new exp. but instead they get overwhelming buff to put them on par with thieves…

ahahahahaha…now I understand why you said you don’t PvP much

EremiteAngel.9765:

mesmers are too strong already imo. they are only weak against thieves if they are not a burst mesmer. they should get some nerf in the new exp. but instead they get overwhelming buff to put them on par with thieves…

For people not used to fighting them, mesmers can seem like a huge barrier to overcome. I’ve introduced several friends to GW2 PvP, and my mesmer is the class they have the most trouble with by far. Stealth is particularly difficult for new players to deal with effectively, but throwing in clones that you might mistakenly use skills on really ups the difficulty if you’re not familiar with mesmers mechanics. In fact, once you get the hang of it, condi necro should be a strong counter to most mesmers you come across as most of their utility slots are tied up in stunbreaks, usually leaving only 1 for conditions.

That said, the best advice I can give you is play a mesmer yourself. When I first started, I hated mesmers with a passion and it didn’t help that around this time was when PU mesmers just started becoming a thing. Ended up making one and now it is by far one of my favorites.