Guild Wars 2

the elite skill time warp looks so much like a glamour skill, i kinda think arenanet should change it into one, would also help in dungeons having a lower cooldown on it via traits.

and while they r at it, maybe moa into manipulation?

i kinda think it would give us some changes while i think moa could be considered overpowered if it is manipulation and has traits for it (20 % cd reduction , longer range)

well main idea is still making time warp into a glamour skill

If you get Time Warp as a Glamour skill, I want Mass Invisibility as a Manipulation skill.

The problem is there are a lot of traits that upgrades glamour skills, so if TW was a glamour skill, full traited would be OP.

Think about an etheral field with 168s of CD and an area of 360 that grants 12s of quickness up to 5 people, and applies blind to everybody on hit and confusion to everybody who enter/exit it during all that 12s.

Please noonono, no more idiotic glamour builds, please no!
Glamour confusion kitten was way too op if you saw how easy it was to deal massive amount of confusion damage. This will only buff those brainless builds.

I prefer mass invis to be 25 targets instead of 10 so we can get rid of veil. Or maybe shatter buff?

Ansau.7326:

The problem is there are a lot of traits that upgrades glamour skills, so if TW was a glamour skill, full traited would be OP.

cough Basilisk Venom cough

TbH. I don’t understand, why Anet makes some Elites a certain category and others not.

An Area Blind + 1-3 Stacks of confusion + the general TW effect actually dont look to strong for me, If you consider the still very long cooldown and the massive traiting you would have to require to alter TW.

You need
20 in Domination for Confusion on enter / leave
20 in Inspiration for CD reduction and duration increase
20 in Illusions for Blind + Blind→Confusion

As far as I know, since the confusion nervs, Confusion Mesmers arent anymore popular in WvW anyway.

Signed. It’s the least they can do after they nerfed quickness!

Valarauka.2719:

Signed. It’s the least they can do after they nerfed quickness!

yeah… when was that change made?? a year ago? rofl

My problem would be that TW is already our best Elite. If I can get it at -20% CD and +20% Duration:

• I would not have any reason not to spec 20 Inspiration. Seriously. Any Mesmer without that would get instantly discarded in both PvE and PvP as there’s no reason not to have that supercharged TW. Ever.
• PU would be a non-issue (I guess this would be a benefit in many people’s eyes? :P ). As TW would no longer be an option but a requirement – though I’d argue in most cases it already is – there’s no option for a built created for a different Elite.
• TW would probably be nerfed to be as strong as it is right now, but with the traits. Did I already mention that 20 Ins would be non-optional?

There’s no positive side to this. That aside, traitable elites are a bad idea. In general. For that very reason, it makes specific elites non-optional. If you play a MM Necro, would you really use Plague?

EverythingEnds.4261:

cough Basilisk Venom cough

Did you really put in the comparison the weakest elite of thiefs to justify your arguments?
Basilisk is a cheap version of MoD, it’s even bad with all 5 venom traits (2 Grandmaster). The hell, even utility venoms are better that basilisk…
There’s a reason I don’t remember being petrified any time in my ~1300h of gameplay.

EverythingEnds.4261:

An Area Blind + 1-3 Stacks of confusion + the general TW effect actually dont look to strong for me, If you consider the still very long cooldown and the massive traiting you would have to require to alter TW.

If we talk about small scale fights it not that awesome.
But against big zergs it would be a blast, making all mesmers to run zombie-mindless confusion glamour builds (Drop 3 ground-targeted skills and sit laughing how all your screen is fulled with purple numbers).
This would only mean more nerfs to confusion and our glamour traits. Do we all really want this?

EverythingEnds.4261:

You need
20 in Domination for Confusion on enter / leave
20 in Inspiration for CD reduction and duration increase
20 in Illusions for Blind + Blind->Confusion

You only really need 50 points to full trait glamours. Blinding Befuddlement has no impact on glamour performance. There’s 20 points left that can be put in all lines, so the amount of combinations is pretty big. Shatter and PU builds have the same amount of “obligated” trait points and I don’t see complaints.

EverythingEnds.4261:

As far as I know, since the confusion nervs, Confusion Mesmers arent anymore popular in WvW anyway.

You may play in a freak server. All guilds I’ve seen have, at least, 2 mesmers. Our utilities are gold in WvW. We are one of the best to roam, we excel in small fights…

The real problem of, not only TW, but all our elites are the CD’s. Mesmer is the profession with longest CD’s on elites, and there’s no option for us to reduce them.
TW should be 180s and Moa should be a Manipulation skill with 150s of base CD. Some tweaks on Moa and MI are necessary, but this is another topic.