Guild Wars 2

one of the things that made me stop using mes as main was that the most viable dmg build (phantams) was hell boring for pve, ppl told me that the reason that shatter mesmer didnt worked was because the clone generation for shatter feeding and the CD

would like to hear the opinions from people that have tested chrono deeply the last 2 betas; with the now endless supply of clones and reduced CD from alacry, do you think shatter mesmer will be decent for pve content now?

So chronomancer may make PvE mesmer use a non-trivial rotation. Let me answer to you in 2 steps:

• first to answer your title directly, if you are looking to increase your personal DPS, chronophantasma allows you to shatter your illusions ONCE without destroying them. So in principle you are only gaining 1 shatter. Since you can take “Mental Anguish” while having your usual phantasm build, then you will have the full strength of shatter builds. I don’t have the maths available but a shatter corresponds to about 2s of mesmer DPS. That is why we cannot shatter in PvE: it would take more time for us to recast all illusions (4s) than we gain DPS-wise. So if you have a short fight, you can shatter twice instead of once and you get about 20k damage. Note that this is not that impressive since going chronomancer, you give up something else, probably the “illusion” trait line and its very important “phantasmal haste”. For a longer fight, you still cannot recast the phantasms because it will take all the DPS gained from shatters. There is a small additional effect that after shattering the first time, the phantasms are “dazed” for 1.5s before attacking again. With phantasms like iSwordsman who attack very frequently, there is no DPS gain here. So in conclusion, chronophantasma is interesting but it won’t change our life in terms of phantasm + shatter DPS.
• now to answer your question about more interesting rotations, it so happens that chronomancer does not need to have the best DPS if he increases the DPS of its allies… Alacrity + quickness help doing just that and chronomancer has now tons of it. So we do not have accurate calculations yet, but it may be the best role for mesmers, and the rotation to maintain quickness + alacrity is very fun:
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sbSA0fyL_U

Tora.7214:

one of the things that made me stop using mes as main was that the most viable dmg build (phantams) was hell boring for pve, ppl told me that the reason that shatter mesmer didnt worked was because the clone generation for shatter feeding and the CD

would like to hear the opinions from people that have tested chrono deeply the last 2 betas; with the now endless supply of clones and reduced CD from alacry, do you think shatter mesmer will be decent for pve content now?

It wasn’t the cd alone.

Mesmer autoattack damage is terrible, basically the class isbalanced around 3 phantasms to compete because the autoattacks and blurred frenzy do virtually no damage whatsoever.

So by shattering, you kill phantasms, your one chunk of damage.

Now with chrono you can shatter more often, and at least the first shatter won’t kill your phantasms thanks to chronophantasma.

The bigger issue is this doesn’t change much. Mesmer sustained damage is still terrible, and a shatter every 6-7 seconds isn’t going to change that.

Buffing the autoattack and blurred frenzy damage will.