Guild Wars 2

And I just don’t know what to do :O

Make some little necros
Ok, no joke…Necro is only class i like to play as well, so whats the problem ?)

Against all odds, even if people tell you it won’t work play my MM build, realize you love it… I’ll even give you a few tips.

Build:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fQAQRBHbhG2IhWpetmrG9eCQSR0UP9gbwDHSRuSD-T4AgzCtIcS5kzJjTyisFNCZFyugTBzCeFA
(if link doesn’t work just copy paste to browser)

Keep all pets up when able, as they’re a lot of your damage, and heal you when they attack. Allow them to do their job by focusing a lot on keeping yourself alive and CCing as much as possible. Try to avoid spamming ccs at once. Try to combo them such as Dark Pact immobilize then as it ends use your Bone Fiend’s immobilize, followed by a Flesh’s charge, then swap to axe/Focus to chill your enemy. If you have life force at this time you can even quickly hit f1, use 2 (for the chill and teleport to them), and then 3 to fear them and immediately leave, and swap back to dagger. By then you should be up for another Dark Pack.

You get dagger 2 for a nice drain to toss while they’re cced, and unless you’re AOE bombed minions recharge fast enough to not be a big deal. Your main source of damage surprisingly is actually the 3 forms of Leech (2 from Vampire runes, and 1 from each of your weapons on swaps. That said, swap often!)

That is, of course, if you are referring to PVP.

Interesting, what if your NOT doing pvp? I mainly do PVE and have not done any pvp or wvw. However your build is the same thing i have been trying to do. I want minions and as much life leech siphon as possible (thats how i play diablo)

I have been using staff, i just hit 80 this weekend, would you recommend all berserker gear for this also?

I am still not happy with the amount of siphon i am getting but dont have the runes yet. do they make a big difference?

Based on what you said “minions, draining life” that’s literally what my build is, im sure later on it could work similarly in PVE, or at least as an MM its as good as its going to get, from what I hear MM doesn’t really shine in pve.

Necros can pve, they just aren’t as good at clearing trash (which makes no sense, dks in wow were kings of trash cleanup.) because our melee is single target and our only strong power-build aoes are on big cds (Wells, DS #4). It terms of killing bosses our single target dps is up there.

Necros can clear trash easily, we have tons of AoE damage. MMs in PvE are pretty nice because you can run a lot of other builds on top of them, and just use them as extras.

Lorelei.3918:

Necros can pve, they just aren’t as good at clearing trash (which makes no sense, dks in wow were kings of trash cleanup.) because our melee is single target and our only strong power-build aoes are on big cds (Wells, DS #4). It terms of killing bosses our single target dps is up there.

Funny, I’ve always looked at it the opposite way.
Marks are great for tagging tons of targets in Orr and in WvW, Life Transfer as well!
Well of Suffering’s cooldown is annoying, but it deals nice damage.

Vs a Single target you need to go melee as a clothie to deal good damage and you still don’t deal as much damage as many of the hardest hitters.
It’s not too shabby, though.

And if you go Condition then it’s not even a contest.
Vs a single boss you hit the 25 bleed stack cap and your damage sucks, vs multiple targets you’ve got so much more.
Epidemic especially is just crazy vs hordes of mobs.

People are always saying… necro can’t do this, can’t do that…. seriously?
try a different strategy? Necros excel in having a variety of options…

Axe and smart use of death shroud can give you good result and very high “burst” for a necro. Oh, and that’s from 600-900 range as a clothie. Melee? hehehe… nah
+ 22k HP Base

Vandole.4150:

People are always saying… necro can’t do this, can’t do that…. seriously?
try a different strategy? Necros excel in having a variety of options…

I 100% agree. I used to play warrior a lot, but the lack of variety/adaptability got old.

Guys, with all my love to this class, it has issues → spezialy with mobility.
And as our pvp is based on mobility it is hard to be max effective.
I won’t say anythink about pve and wvw, as it is pretty bording for me.

ronpierce.2760:

Against all odds, even if people tell you it won’t work play my MM build, realize you love it… I’ll even give you a few tips.

Build:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fQAQRBHbhG2IhWpetmrG9eCQSR0UP9gbwDHSRuSD-T4AgzCtIcS5kzJjTyisFNCZFyugTBzCeFA
(if link doesn’t work just copy paste to browser)

Keep all pets up when able, as they’re a lot of your damage, and heal you when they attack. Allow them to do their job by focusing a lot on keeping yourself alive and CCing as much as possible. Try to avoid spamming ccs at once. Try to combo them such as Dark Pact immobilize then as it ends use your Bone Fiend’s immobilize, followed by a Flesh’s charge, then swap to axe/Focus to chill your enemy. If you have life force at this time you can even quickly hit f1, use 2 (for the chill and teleport to them), and then 3 to fear them and immediately leave, and swap back to dagger. By then you should be up for another Dark Pack.

You get dagger 2 for a nice drain to toss while they’re cced, and unless you’re AOE bombed minions recharge fast enough to not be a big deal. Your main source of damage surprisingly is actually the 3 forms of Leech (2 from Vampire runes, and 1 from each of your weapons on swaps. That said, swap often!)

Quake I’ve tried pming you ingame… You never respond. T_T

ronpierce.2760:

Quake I’ve tried pming you ingame… You never respond. T_T

Err sorry just realized I left my game running xD
Gonna get on now

I don’t mean to rain the the parade or anything… Necro’s have it pretty rough. Their extreme lack of stability and escapes make them an easy target in pvp. Elementalists (d/d ele to be specific) have some amazing cc and damage capabilities while also doing amazing aoe, hp regen, and drenched in stability / blocks/ invulnerability.

Necro’s are cool and still my favorite in terms of my interest in necromancer type classes in general. But when you do a real comparison to some of the other classes its hard to say necros have an even playing field with a straight face. Once you start to do some pvp versus some experienced players you might see what I mean.

I do think you can do well in pvp as a necro. But its not easy. Not nearly as easy as playing an ele, mesmer, etc. When in concentrated team fights like a 3v3 or the like, necro’s will inevitably be the first one focused due to their extreme lack of stability and mobility. Health is only worth anything if you can couple it with other defenses.

Watch some videos on eles with only 14k hp, constantly regening, escaping, blocking, etc and not even having to use their heal skill. It’s not about how much health you have. You can have 40k health but if you lack skills providing survivability that life pool means nothing.

err anyways, glhf.