oh sorry ascii, did not look at the name before i posted. my bad. I’m just sorta negative right now.
Thats cool.
You can compare the stats from before on a site that hasn’t updated it yet like http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/ and bare in the mists, i thought it might of been a site error so i checked back on a previous thread with stats posted (The Scepter vs Axe Power build " thread) and i found my post that compared base stats on a bare toon:
“Or to state it more simply, in his Power build his scepter does more damage because hes traited and speced more for additional condition at the cost of crit, and in my build axe does more then scepter because i capitalize on critical chance and damage making the base damage of axe (170) hit more then the scepters (85)”
“wel.. The axe 1 x does (2x) x 170 and sectper 1 first attack do 85 and 170 bleed dmg.This info did i find on the gw2skills builder, so even with no gear the scepter do more dmg only on the first attack.”
i think i might have noticed that my scepter was easily critting for 1k on the third hit while farming orr this morning. I’m still running something similar to zintair’s hybrid. I like having decent power and condition dmg, while runnign about 1500 toughness (not awesome, but not shabby).
Still not sure if I should run a 20/30/20/0/0 build or a 20/30/0/0/20 build for death shroud. I use deathshrouud to get might stacks, and to bounce in to fear, or use DS 4, but I never loaded up on the DS trait line because the abilities are sub par unless you trait to 30 and get 3 sec stability.
This sounds too good to be true (so it probably is ).
Anyway, I looked at Fiesbert’s thread (Fiesbert, I mentioned your thread: 3 hours well spent I’d say ) about autoattack DPS and he allready uses your boosted values (even though his thread dates from 29/09 and his last edit was 01/10), so I don’t really have a clue what is going on here… If I’d have to venture a guess though: I seem to vaguely remember that one of the patches included a change to the tooltips so they would now reflect your stats instead of just showing the base damage? If the values you use predates this patch, then maybe that explains it?
I have noticed this damage buff or at least tool-tip damage change is consistent on all classes and not just Necromancer, all seem to be an increase of 38.82% from the original tool-tip on a naked toon which might translate into a different way damage is displayed on the tool-tip for everyone.
I think your right Arvid this was too good to be true!
I think they just changed the way damage displays, now it includes all your items and buffs which (IIRC) they didnt before.
Personally my damage hasnt gone up, at least not on dagger and death shroud. My dagger1-necrotic bite still does around 1200 damage on the practice dummies in LA and thats with full Knights armor + 30 points into Spite.
Tooltips on my naked Necromancer in the Mists are still the same as they were about 3 weeks ago when i wanted to determine the coefficients. The only change i’m seeing is Axe 2 going up 10%.
I think Ascii is right, actually. I test on golems every single day and with the exact same build I had before the patch I’m definitely killing the golems faster.
Something was changed. Also Necrotic Grasp is 1400 rnage now which is pretty sweet with it’s increased speed.
Don’t look at the tooltips, they are outdated once again. Focus doesn’t even show that it adds 4 vulnerability instead of 3 now.
The range of Necrotic Grasp has always been around 1500 range but i think noone (like me) had brought before incase it was nurfed however alot of people have been saying it seems to travel quicker then before. Im not sure if thats a stealth buff or it has something to do with the new FoV.
I think Ascii is right, actually. I test on golems every single day and with the exact same build I had before the patch I’m definitely killing the golems faster.
Something was changed. Also Necrotic Grasp is 1400 rnage now which is pretty sweet with it’s increased speed.
Don’t look at the tooltips, they are outdated once again. Focus doesn’t even show that it adds 4 vulnerability instead of 3 now.
Jon did good with damage boost.
I still hit the heavy golems for the exact tooltip damage and i have not noticed any changes in our attack speeds so how much is definitely faster?
There is no damage boost, its trickery of the mind. My damage is exactly the same as before.
Stop praising Anet for something they didnt do or they will think its all good now.
The reason you feel more powerful than the enemies is because most of the other classes got nerfs.
Wtf? If this is legit surely it’s a bug. Even if Anet has been trolling us this whole time, there’s no way they would let such a massive across-the-board damage buff slip through the patch notes.
Shouldn’t have brought it up Ascii, don’t you know that a necro doing direct damage is a no no? Think of the people who have mastered deathshroud already!
Anyways, I’m sure it’ll be nerfed shortly, and all the tooltips will be updated.
NO its not a buff, nor will they nerf it, the damage shown by tooltips actually updates now with weapon damage (yes it now does something), gear and base stats, level 2 damage is still the same except on ghastly claws (dealing like 18 more damage with full channel.
Utilites and Transformations have their own weapon equips and power calculations.
When life gives you lemon, ask if its from a anime or manga.
This is not even true,
only Axe skill 2 was buffed
nothing else was buffed damage wise
This. Damage output is the exact same as always. Nothing’s been changed.
Staff #1 has also had a much longer range than 1200 for a very long time now. I guess it just wasn’t public knowledge? I’ve been using it to solo pull the Hunter from the Crusher in Arah’s Forgotten path since Day 1 (Or 2, or 3. Whatever).
I was wondering if anyone else was noticing a dmg increase. I was definitely hitting people harder in PvP last night. Some of the numbers seemed surprising. DS skills were most noticeable to me. And when I say hitting people harder I mean I saw an extra 1k dmg on top of what I’m used to seeing. I was critting LS for 5k+ on multiple targets and LB was hitting like a truck with 4k crits while LF was above 50%.
I was having fun last night
Hackkz/Riggamaroll
I’ve stayed at this party entirely too long
Not to be rude Ascii but this is the second time you test something like once and post the results as fact….
My numbers are the same after testing, I wanted to see if Axe Number 2 did get 10% damage buff and if that would justify using it over a scepter in a power build now.
Damage is the same for other skills. Stealth buffs are not going to happen if Anet buffs something for necros they will post it because of how pissed the necro players have been lately.
Good patch, other then losing stability but they lowered downstate health that helped some.
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) about autoattack DPS and he allready uses your boosted values (even though his thread dates from 29/09 and his last edit was 01/10), so I don’t really have a clue what is going on here… If I’d have to venture a guess though: I seem to vaguely remember that one of the patches included a change to the tooltips so they would now reflect your stats instead of just showing the base damage? If the values you use predates this patch, then maybe that explains it?