Advice against staff thieves?

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Posted by: Weo weo.6378

Weo weo.6378

Hey guys, I’ve recently been maining reaper as the main specc for pvp and just need a bit of advice. I’ve managed to get to Gold 3 on soloqueue playing predominantly reaper, mostly boonstrip power and sometimes as proccmancer.

I’d like to know how you deal with this class on a 1v1 level. The meta PI dash thief usually isn’t an issue at all. However the vault spam builds gets noticeably difficult. I feel as though sometimes impossible to deal with solo, especially on thieves who have learnt how to abuse debilitating arcs and their cancels.

Any advice would be nice, I realize it’s a skill thing and I’d like to improve.

These are main builds I’m running:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vRAQNBHhZ6kjGobTs2Gw8GgeTsgLYUph2wzK+K2FDjQXtAwBA-TpBFABLcIAuf/BCOBAMcEAA4BAIeZAA

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vRAQNBHhZ6kkGolGsnGwmGgeTsIOYUVgMwCYqAExCAxDwEYDE-TpBFABwv/ADHBgFOEAiXGggTAAAPAAA

(On the second build, I often ran Greatsword with cc heavy teams but mainly axe warhorn everywhere else).

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Posted by: Stand The Wall.6987

Stand The Wall.6987

idk dodge the first two vaults and then get weakness on them and start using damage skills. might help. if they aren’t spamming get weakness and cover it with some others, try to cast cancel skills with obvious animations to bait dodges.

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Posted by: Weo weo.6378

Weo weo.6378

Problem with that is they essentially start with 5 dodges with signet of agility, 7 if they stole successfully and enough initiate to spam another 3-4. Is there no other way other than animation baiting?

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Posted by: FrostDraco.8306

FrostDraco.8306

Warhorn 4 at the end of the vault animation. Problem solved.

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Posted by: SlitheSlivier.1908

SlitheSlivier.1908

Marks do really well against them. I usually don’t have much of a problem with them. I usually will drop marks, try to land axe 3, then shadow shroud 4. But use whatever aoe you have at the time. It’s possible,if you don’t have much,that you can’t counter them easily, but you can’t counter every build anyway, so pick your targets. I personally bring staff particularly for thieves but it works nicely against others too

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Posted by: Zenith.7301

Zenith.7301

There’s not much you can do against a half competent thief.

They will keep disengaging on you until they run you out of defensive cooldowns and shroud and then come in for the kill.

The thieves you kill are the ones who are impatient/dumb and will all-in you when you have full shroud and cd’s.

The problem is they can simply harass you with shortbow and all they need to worry about at a distance is dodging your marks which is easy enough for them, and since necro doesn’t have any good ranged weapons on a power build they’ll get you to like 60-70% and go in for the first burst attempt.

Thief and warrior are necro counters, they have the strongest burst in game and the best damage evasion tools.

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Posted by: Famine.7915

Famine.7915

Time your attacks to land when they are at the top of a vault. No evade frame there.

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Posted by: Stand The Wall.6987

Stand The Wall.6987

Thief and warrior are necro counters, they have the strongest burst in game and the best damage evasion tools.

which always annoyed me cuz necro is traditionally the melee counter.

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Posted by: Drarnor Kunoram.5180

Drarnor Kunoram.5180

Spectral Wall will actually work nicely. Wall skills ignore evasion frames.

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