Guild Wars 2

Good evening my friends, But of Corpse wants to start setting up an all-necro spvp war of 8 on 8 full necro war! My goal is to have 3 or 4 different people record it and we will edit it so that everyone can see the battle.

If you are interested in participating please respond in the following manner so we can make sure to get enough players to try it.

IGN: Bas Ag Teacht
NA or EU: NA
Server: Tarnished Coast
Access to Mumble: Yes
Video Capture Capabilities: Fraps – Editing as well
Easiest Day for you: M-Thurs after 5:30pm PST/GMT-8

I look forward to having a fun time with those involved.

Current NA sign-ups

Bas
Bhawb
Storm of the Ages
Kravick
Gaffles
Tezcatlipoca
Talentless
Admired
Bull Zooker

Current EU Sign Up

manverupped
flow
Samuska

Maestra De Muerte
NA
Isle of Janthir
Yes
xFire/Camstudio, maybe Fraps soon – can edit
Saturday/Sunday, Thursday/Friday after 3pm PST

Come on guys where is the Necro love, it would take 10-20 minutes of your time to do this, and it would be hilariously fun to record and watch later!!

Sign up now! Bullzooker! Nay! Dredlord! where are you guys?!!?!?!

Kravick!! come join us for a little bit of Necro laughter before going back to the angry abyss ;p

Imagine all the condition transferring =o

Storm of the Ages.9076:

Imagine all the condition transferring =o

Come on storm sign up!!!

That sounds like fun! Sadly I’m on EU so not sure I can join. Can you use the guesting feature cross-continent? Or can you only guest on servers in the same datacentre?

Alternatively, I know that chat is global and you can chat and mail people on any server in the world, so maybe you can invite them to group up as well? If we’re in the same group then the group leader can talk to the tournament NPC and sign us up and we’ll all get the invite even if we’re not on the same map.

Kravick!! come join us for a little bit of Necro laughter before going back to the angry abyss

But the abyss is warm and safe and its too bright outside!

I suppose I could join in on this. At least it would be interesting to see. I still need 30 more wins for my title. :p

Sign me up.

IGN: Iris Ashensoul
NA or EU: NA
Server: Tarnished Coast
Access to Mumble: Yes
Video Capture Capabilities: None. No experience, but if someone is willing to walk me through it, I can try.
Easiest Day for you: Any time after 5pm EST.

Captain Canuck
NA
Jade Quarry
Yes
Fraps
Sat/Sun anytime

This should be fun.

manveruppd.7601:

That sounds like fun! Sadly I’m on EU so not sure I can join. Can you use the guesting feature cross-continent? Or can you only guest on servers in the same datacentre?

Alternatively, I know that chat is global and you can chat and mail people on any server in the world, so maybe you can invite them to group up as well? If we’re in the same group then the group leader can talk to the tournament NPC and sign us up and we’ll all get the invite even if we’re not on the same map.

Nope, tournaments can’t be done cross server, I would assume that sPvP is the same.

Bhawb.7408:

Nope, tournaments can’t be done cross server, I would assume that sPvP is the same.

I was doing sPvP with someone from FA in my group the other day, but since hes from EU servers, I have no idea if that applies.

Storm of the Ages.9076:

Imagine all the condition transferring =o

Like a STD convention turned orgy.

^Now that sells it xD Looks like I will have to brush off my pvp gear.

IGN: Storm of the Ages
NA or EU: NA
Server: Tarnished Coast
Access to Mumble: No, but can have
Video Capture Capabilities: No, but can have if needed.
Easiest Day for you: Anytime after 5pm est

IGN: Tézcatlipoca
NA or EU: NA
Server: Jade Quarry
Access to Mumble: Yes
Video Capture Capabilities: Nop
Easiest Day for you: Anytime after the 16th of april

6 down 10 more needed :P

Sorry, not cross server but cross region. I can’t PvP with Nemesis, for example, because he is EU and I am NA.

We could also do a 5v5 if needed, they have 10 person servers.

Bhawb.7408:

Sorry, not cross server but cross region. I can’t PvP with Nemesis, for example, because he is EU and I am NA.

We could also do a 5v5 if needed, they have 10 person servers.

Good point so 4 more to go ;p

Admired Scout
NA
Dragonbrand
Yes
No
M/W: 1PM+ PST
Sun/Tues: 12PM – 5PM PST
Thurs/Fri/Sat: 12PM+ PST

IGN: Talentless Necro
NA or EU: NA
Server: Jade Quarry
Access to Mumble: Yes
Video Capture Capabilities: Bandicam
Easiest Day for you: hard to say, been busy recently. Best around 7-10pm EST. Can plan accordingly.

We are up to 8 of 10 at least!!

Remember we will all be on but of corpse with multiple players recording, and the goal is to have fun, and attempt as many all out center fights as possible haha!

Bas.7406:

We are up to 8 of 10 at least!!

Remember we will all be on but of corpse with multiple players recording, and the goal is to have fun, and attempt as many all out center fights as possible haha!

I’m going to need an invite to that then.

I would totally join if I was NA xD
Well at least all EU players can watch the slaughter on video later.
Consolation prize… yay.

In one round we all should bring MM builds. I think that would be really entertaining to watch xD

flow.6043:

I would totally join if I was NA xD
Well at least all EU players can watch the slaughter on video later.
Consolation prize… yay.

Why can’t EU players do this as well? I asked for EU players to sign up, and I will put up a list, and get the day up.

I will start an EU side sign up, if we get 10 players. I know a few EU guys who can record and have a Necro.

So as an update

NA is 8 of 10 minimum needed (though it would be cooler to have 16)
EU is 2 of 10 minimum needed

Looking for a few more people!

IGN: Soulgant
NA or EU: NA
Server: Tarnished Coast
Access to Mumble: Yes
Video Capture Capabilities: I’d rather not be the one to record
Easiest Day for you: I have a flexible schedule for the next couple of weeks, so once a day and time is decided I most likely can work it out into my schedule.

P.S. I might be able to bring out someone else from NA into this. Also, to my knowledge cross-server tPvP is possible (as long as all members are in the same region, NA or EU) so I would prefer to do that instead of normal sPvP.

Soulgant.7689:

IGN: Soulgant
NA or EU: NA
Server: Tarnished Coast
Access to Mumble: Yes
Video Capture Capabilities: I’d rather not be the one to record
Easiest Day for you: I have a flexible schedule for the next couple of weeks, so once a day and time is decided I most likely can work it out into my schedule.

P.S. I might be able to bring out someone else from NA into this. Also, to my knowledge cross-server tPvP is possible (as long as all members are in the same region, NA or EU) so I would prefer to do that instead of normal sPvP.

That does make sense but we would have to get our own server correct? The problem with doing it as tpvp is that it would affect the rankings of several of our players

We wouldn’t be able to guarantee that both our groups would match up if we went into tournaments, sPvP however is fairly easy, you just count down and everyone joins the same server.

Oh, I would’ve preferred to see how an all necromancer team fares against other teams. But it seems I misread (I should stop skimming through >.>) your post and you actually meant ALL necromancer sPvP as in both teams are made entirely of necromancers. Since that is the case then yea tPvP would be unreasonable as there is no guarantee we would get pitted against each other. However I can see similar problems in sPvP servers unless we manage to completely fill up a room (since if it’s not 8vs8 we might get a few random players mixed in with us).

Anyways since I seem to have completely misinterpreted your meaning and I thought it would be an all necromancer team vs other non-all-necromancer teams, I revoke my participation. I would still however love to see how the match went after it is recorded. Cheers

Soulgant.7689:

Oh, I would’ve preferred to see how an all necromancer team fares against other teams. But it seems I misread (I should stop skimming through >.>) your post and you actually meant ALL necromancer sPvP as in both teams are made entirely of necromancers. Since that is the case then yea tPvP would be unreasonable as there is no guarantee we would get pitted against each other. However I can see similar problems in sPvP servers unless we manage to completely fill up a room (since if it’s not 8vs8 we might get a few random players mixed in with us).

Anyways since I seem to have completely misinterpreted your meaning and I thought it would be an all necromancer team vs other non-all-necromancer teams, I revoke my participation. I would still however love to see how the match went after it is recorded. Cheers

Don’t get me wrong I want to try out an all tournament Necro team one time for fun ;p

That is why we are having either 5v5 or 8v8, we’d completely fill up the server ourselves.

We have tried tPvP before, but didn’t have 5 people who actually wanted to do it.

@Bas If and when you setup and all necromancer team for tPvP, let me know. I’d love to be a part of that. Maybe after this event is over we can move on to the tPvP version of it?

I am very curious as to how it’d work out. Sure we might lose a few games because of our (initial) lack of coordination, but I believe an all necromancer team could have good synergy as long as we plan out our builds to complement each other’s and to cover each other’s weaknesses.

It could be figured out I’m sure, and at the very least we could just have Khalifa hard-carry us :P

A bunker, a soldier MM, terror build, shaman support, rabid condition build, all 3 could run epidemics, soldier can cover back point with wurm teleport and warhorn, bunker can generally spread some control. With the fears and corruptions, it shouldn’t be an issue to keep people off priority targets, soldier MMs can 1v1 pretty much anyone, and the condition removal, OH LAWDY the condition removal.

Not to say it’d work at super high levels, but with the right teamwork I’d imagine you would destroy a lot of teams with uncounterable condition spreading, and the strong AoE control we’d bring to points (you could basically make the point no-mans land with all the AoE).

I think it would be fun, bug there would be certain maps, spirit watch, that would be extremely difficult for a Necro Tourney team.

D/wh bunker with wells
MM boon stripper
power mancer for focus kills
one conditionmancer
terror build

If you dont have this group you wouldnt have enough oomph to kill a bunker ele/ranger team. Biggest issue would be lock down killing.

You mean locking an enemy down? Soldier MM with D/WH A/F has 2 second daze, 3 second immobilize, 1 second fear, 2 second immobilize (or 4? does Rigor Mortis stack itself since 2x attacks?), and a knockdown. You can assassinate any squishy that doesn’t immediately blow their stun breaks.

Powermancers likely wouldn’t be needed, it would also detract from our strongest synergy which is mass AoE condition, you’d be better off chaining CC together. Shaman support with Terror and condition mancer will have all the boon stripping you’ll need, and you should have pretty instant 25 bleed stacks all around all the time, you’d overwhelm the condition removal of any team.

Spirit watch would be difficult because of mobility issues, but you’d have such strong defensive orb control I think you could slow the game down enough to play at your speed, not theirs.

The fastest and surest way to confirm it would be through actual tPvP (theory crafting often fails to give any indication of actual performance). Although I tend to agree with Bhawb more considering how you can stack immobilize + fear (max 5s) + chill (with enough coordination) and epidemic it, this would essentially destroy the mobility of anyone caught in the radius of epidemic. Also I believe you can epidemic conditions that were already epidemic’d so by using 1 chill and 1 immobilize you could essentially stack both conditions on enemy players for very long periods of time.

Consider the following scenario 1 necromancer uses dark path followed by dark pact on an enemy. The same necromancer epidemics these conditions to 2 other enemies, another necromancer then epidemics the conditions again. Then a third necromancer uses epidemic on a different target (which would have double the starting duration of chill and immobilize since they were epidemic’d twice) this would result in the following: 1 enemy has 3xduration on chill + immobilize, 1 enemy has 2x duration on chill + immobilize and 1 enemy has 4x duration on chill + immobilize. You can see how this can potentially shut down the mobility of many enemies.Then again this all depends on:
1. Whether conditions that were previously epidemic’d can be epidemic’d again
2. Whether they dodge the initial epidemic or not
3. Whether they used any condition removals during the process
4. Whether you had 2-3 targets inside the radius of epidemic
5. Whether 2-3 necromancers were present during that team fight

I can see how this could be considered somewhat situational but I hope you get my point. Also boon stripping via minions can be unreliable, corrupt boon/spinal shivers/well of corruption would provide more reliable/effective boon removal throughout the fight.

A good team composition (IMO) would be 2 terror rabid necromancers, a cleric or soldier MM, a tanky shaman condition necromancer with WoP and WoB, and either a power/well necromancer or a hybrid/well necromancer.

With an all necro team i would definatly have atleast one power+wells build. Calling out a dagger 3 immob so another necro on point could immediatly epidemic as it lands could set up some nasty well bombs to clear off a point.

1. Yes they can, they aren’t treated any differently once they are applied.

Edit: actually I will have to test this, because I do have to wonder if you can spread conditions through two Epidemics like that; Epidemic target 1, conditions are applied to target 2, Epidemic target 2, and target 2’s conditions (which are all mirrors of target 1) should double in length if it works. Someone correct me if they have already tested this.

2-4 would obviously be where things get more difficult in practice. Even taking it out of ideal situations in theory, you should be able to get Epidemics off fairly often, if you have good coordination. With a Terrormancer, you would combo your CC with the Epidemic timing so they can’t dodge, and with 5x necromancers I think every guardian/ele combo is going to be hitting a wall with condition removal.

Obviously this would require a good amount of coordination, so at first I’m sure it would fail, but I think it would be possible to pull off.

5. Playing with such a team build, it would be in your best interest to keep at least 3 Necromancers together all the time (the 3 conditionmancers), since their real strength in this comp is the cumulative effect of their condition stacking and CC.

I agree completely with the team comp. And I am sure that there are plenty that could work, I just think stacking Necromancers largest strengths together ends up having a sum greater than its parts, instead of trying to play to the meta, just using Necro versions of the builds.

I was actually going to make a whole new post hoping someone could test it out but three necros coordinating with epidemic could potentially keep chaining epidemics to perma immobilize a small group. It wouldnt even be that hard after the first two epidemics since one guy could have a 12sec+ immob on him for the last necro to spread.

@Bryker With one power necromancer and a MM you’d have 3 immobilizes (2 dark pacts and 1 rigor mortis). Assuming ~20-30% condition duration, once applied the immobilize would last ~10s before it is epidemic’d. Those 10s could potentially be used to keep up to 5 targets permanently immobilized (one target would have ~40s of immobilize, more than enough to allow further spreading once epidemic recharges which should be in 12-15s). Hopefully they don’t nerf epidemic (again) now .

Thats why i decided not to make a new post about it Lol. Lets just keep this buried in the bottom of this one before anet just removes epidemic altogether.

Haha, let’s move tournament to another thread :P

im game for this. will be about in the evenings most days. bare in mind im on British time but im on NA server.
IGN: bull face
NA or EU: NA
Mumble access: can download if needed
server: FA.

IGN: Groknar Blackcoat
NA or EU: EU
Server: Kodash [Ger]
Access to Mumble: Yes (But english is not my mothertongue)
Video Capture Capabilities: none atm but got access too
Edit: Forgot the time i live in GMT+1 i don’t have really game times, i play as often as i can (usually from 2 p.m till 11 pm or something like that)

So we have 9 signups on the NA side, and 3 signups for the EU side. Could use 2 to 3 more for NA so that in case one person can’t make it someone else is ready to go.

Need a bunch more for EU :P.

Bas, maybe you should post in the sPvP forum to get us one or two more Necro’s for the NA all necro battle.

Can’t wait to see the different Necro builds fight eachother…

I will see what I can do Tez :P. Thanks for the idea.