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Posted by: The V.8759

The V.8759

Please note that this build will probably be not the highest dps for necro, and is purely made to create another style of playing instead of meta. Fun and optimal can be 2 very different things^^

Hey guys!

I have been testing out and experimenting lately and I made this alternative power necro build!

Charactistics of the build

- Quite high dps
- Very high critical chance due to high fury uptime
- Moderate self healing without losing dps
- Supporting team with Signet of Vampirism and AoE weakness
- Quite good AoE pressure

Build parts explained

Weapons

Your axe/focus is ment for burst damage. However because of the low damage AA and weapon swap time only casting Ghastly Claws will not improve your overall dps. Therefore you should only swap when Well of Suffering is off cooldown and Signet of Vampirism and Blood is Power too. You should be able to do: Swap to Axe > Ghastly Claws > Well of Suffering > Signet of Vampirism > Reaper’s Touch > Blood is Power > Ghastly Claws > Swap back to dagger.

Your Dagger/Warhorn is for your sustained while others skills are on cooldown. Only well of corruption should be cast at will when it is off cooldown here. Your Blood is Power and Well of Suffering should be on cooldown at the same time so you can cast when you swap to axe. Using warhorn 5 (locust Swarm) gives you more AoE damage, but will also do siphon damage from vampiric (precision). Skill 2 and 3 are only used situational!

Utilities

Signet of Vampirism is often seen as bad. But it does have a place. When you take Consume Conditions you will not be diong any damage for 1.25s. If you take Signet of Vampirism you and your team will do extra damage because you actually healed. It has only a bit higher CD (3s) and same cast time.
The Wells are obvious choices since they offer huge AoE damage, vulnerability and boon corruption.
Blood is Power is here to maintain your might high.
Lich Form is the best elite you can pick with seriously high damage.

Deathshroud’s role

Deathshroud is in this build not used for it’s skills. It is used to give you high uptime fury. Double pressing DS will cause you to do Enfeeble blood and give Fury for 5.5s. This is an almost instant swap and will not even cause your dagger AA to start over again when cast inbetween the chain.

The Sigils and Runes

Runes
The reason I chose runes of rage is that they will give you the 100% fury uptime. When having such high critical hit chance the main stat of the rune Ferocity is more than welcome. Next to that it will give a flat 5% damage bonus.
As an alternative you can go for the Rune of Strength. However might is way much easier to obtain when you are fighting in groups than fury. It does give a flat damage bonus of 2% more, but at a cost of not having 100% fury uptime.
When you have too much incoming conditions you can also choose to go Rune of Hoelbrak. However in PvE (Which this build is made for) I rarely get into such situations.

Sigils
The Bloodlust sigil is pretty much mandatory together with Sigil of Fire because of max damage reasons. However there can be some runes swapped around. If you are mainly using this build against single targets you can also go with Sigil of Lightning. This will turn out in higher damage.
If you lack any form of condition cleanse you can get a sigil of Generosity in there (You will be critting enough to be reliable). However since this rune is almost 100g you can also go for sigil of Purity. Sigil of Cleansing is in this case not the best option since you will only swap sets twice every 30s. (Approximatly)

The traits alternatives
I think the best other option for your traits to swap out your 2 Spite points and put 1 in Soul Reaping for Strength of the undead, increasing your damage by 5%. The other one can be used to give wells a lower cooldown, or to go Deathly Invigorations giving a small AoE heal (500+) every 7 seconds. However using them in Spite felt better for me. The reduced cooldown lets you help your team better and you can some free might in addition to the 100 power the trait line itself gives. (This will make the traits look like this)

Give me some feedback about this build, try it out. It feels so much different since death shroud is for your fury only. I think it is an awefull lot of fun and with pretty good results.

Greetings!
Fvux.

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Posted by: otetas.9675

otetas.9675

Since you have target of the weak why not switch well of corruption to signet of spite, because even well of corruption isnt that good for pve.

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Since you have target of the weak why not switch well of corruption to signet of spite, because even well of corruption isnt that good for pve.

I have been thinking about this. In a situation of group PvE the enemy will have a lot of conditions already applied throughout many skills from other players too, even when they are berserker.
When Solo PvE the damage the well does gives you more dps (Yes calculated the dps including cooldown) than signet of spite active does (Also included cooldown).
Next to that The bleeding will already be applied through Crits and Emfeebling Blood (DS). Vulnerability through well and reapers touch etc. You will apply several of those conditions already

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Posted by: NeXeD.3042

NeXeD.3042

Any power build that doesn’t take the 50% damage increase is just a mistake now.

Not to mention vamp signet sucks.

#DOWNSTATENECROOP

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The V.8759

Any power build that doesn’t take the 50% damage increase is just a mistake now.

Not to mention vamp signet sucks.

#DOWNSTATENECROOP

As I explained Signet of Vampirism is best option for team. You all will get some heals, has same cast time as CC and actually does about 7k damage to the enemy if 4 other allies will attack it too.

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Posted by: Nightshade.2570

Nightshade.2570

I admire this, I admire that you told us not to expect this to be the highest DPS you can do.

Team play is very different from everything. The size of your team and the role that you must play is important. I am intrigued by any template that breaks the meta. People often pass judgement to quickly.

I make several different Necros with different builds for different things. One necro I have is made to work perfectly with my mesmer friends template. We have a very very high boon ripping power right now and can hold just about any point in PvP together especially from classes with allot of stability.

So thank you for giving us, different choices based on whim, fun or just plain interest. Cause you never know what can happen in a team environment a build that seems weak stand alone may be very strong as a unit.

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The V.8759

I admire this, I admire that you told us not to expect this to be the highest DPS you can do.

Team play is very different from everything. The size of your team and the role that you must play is important. I am intrigued by any template that breaks the meta. People often pass judgement to quickly.

I make several different Necros with different builds for different things. One necro I have is made to work perfectly with my mesmer friends template. We have a very very high boon ripping power right now and can hold just about any point in PvP together especially from classes with allot of stability.

So thank you for giving us, different choices based on whim, fun or just plain interest. Cause you never know what can happen in a team environment a build that seems weak stand alone may be very strong as a unit.

You sir or miss, are flattering me

But serious, I totally aggree with you. I think it is about time many people start thinking “out of the box”, in this case out of the meta.

PS. If you want to share some cool builds, post em ^^ I am really interested

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Posted by: NeXeD.3042

NeXeD.3042

This build wouldn’t work in pvp just fyi.

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Posted by: Nightshade.2570

Nightshade.2570

I admire this, I admire that you told us not to expect this to be the highest DPS you can do.

Team play is very different from everything. The size of your team and the role that you must play is important. I am intrigued by any template that breaks the meta. People often pass judgement to quickly.

I make several different Necros with different builds for different things. One necro I have is made to work perfectly with my mesmer friends template. We have a very very high boon ripping power right now and can hold just about any point in PvP together especially from classes with allot of stability.

So thank you for giving us, different choices based on whim, fun or just plain interest. Cause you never know what can happen in a team environment a build that seems weak stand alone may be very strong as a unit.

You sir or miss, are flattering me

But serious, I totally aggree with you. I think it is about time many people start thinking “out of the box”, in this case out of the meta.

PS. If you want to share some cool builds, post em ^^ I am really interested

I will give it some thought I will also try out this build and let you know what i think and if I see any things we might try else that might be interesting. Maybe the commentators are right and it wont work but on other hand maybe it just needs tweaking. With changes to stability the game has changed.

It is a smart person that changes with it and a fool who clings to their old ideals and does nothing.

Please feel free to add me to your friends list.

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Posted by: The V.8759

The V.8759

This build wouldn’t work in pvp just fyi.

Sorry Edited the title, this build was made for PvE

PS, added you nightmare

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Posted by: Anchoku.8142

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With a power build and signet mastery, you also get might. Look into might duration runes and might sigils. I see what you are up to with Curses and cannot fault it, though I cringe at the cost to Spite.

The single best thing about SoV is Might when traited. I only use it when I can get by with weak heals.
Also, it looks like you have… less condition clearing than I like to play with.

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With a power build and signet mastery, you also get might. Look into might duration runes and might sigils. I see what you are up to with Curses and cannot fault it, though I cringe at the cost to Spite.

The single best thing about SoV is Might when traited. I only use it when I can get by with weak heals.
Also, it looks like you have… less condition clearing than I like to play with.

Indeed this build does flaw condition removal. To maintain this in the build you can go for Shrouded removal and take away the spite points. This will give you 1 condi removal every 7s. If you are fighting mobs (Not single enemy boss) you can also go for Spiteful removal.

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News! Edited a Sigil and Rune explanations and alternatives! In the next days I will keep this build to update and expand every component of it, and get some footage of it!

Greetings, Fvux!

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