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Posted by: Streets.2705

Streets.2705

If you had 100% crit chance, ~ 7 power = 1% crit damage.

refute?

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Posted by: Mammoth.1975

Mammoth.1975

Depends on your current power.

If you’re not playing to win, don’t complain when you lose.

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Posted by: Streets.2705

Streets.2705

damage formula is;

(weapon damage x power x skill coefficient) / target’s armor = damage dealt.

I went off the base power of 916 which everyone has at lv 80 using pvp steady weapon with 254 dmg and necro’s unholy feast for coefficient of 0.8799. Multiplied the damage by the base crit damage of 50% then compared the numbers from an increase in power by 7 to an increase in crit damage by 1%.

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Posted by: Softspoken.2410

Softspoken.2410

If you’ve got 916 power and 100% crit chance, then 1% crit damage would change your effective power from 1.50 * 916 to 1.51 * 916, so (1.51*916 – 1.50*916) or 916(0.01). So it’d be 9 power.

You would also have the most screwed up build I had yet encountered, but that’s a different point entirely.

Edit: This is wrong and misleading. Not sure what I was thinking, sorry. See below for better stuff.

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(edited by Softspoken.2410)

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Posted by: Streets.2705

Streets.2705

Is crit damage multiplied in the damage formula or at the end?

I was just trying to figure for fun the amount of power needed to match having 150% crit damage (base 50% + 100% boost).

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Posted by: Softspoken.2410

Softspoken.2410

Is crit damage multiplied in the damage formula or at the end?

I was just trying to figure for fun the amount of power needed to match having 150% crit damage (base 50% + 100% boost).

Since everything is multiplicative, it actually doesn’t matter when you multiply it in!

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Posted by: Streets.2705

Streets.2705

then this is how the formula for damage dealt would look like for necro’s unholy feast. I had the skill coefficient wrong before. I am using pvp’s steady axe for 254-254 dmg range against the heavy golem which is rated for 2600 armor.

base stats:
(254 × 916 × 0.79) / 2600 = 71 × 1.5 = 107

10% crit damage;
(254 × 916 × 0.79) / 2600 = 71 × 1.6 = 114

70 power:
(254 × 986 × 0.79) /2600 = 76 × 1.5 = 114

I learned from testing that the amount of power needed to match 1% crit damage varies depending on which skill because they all have different coefficients.

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Posted by: Softspoken.2410

Softspoken.2410

Alright, redoing my calculations, I found an error in my first attempt: I basically made up the crit multiplier * power thing on the spot, and it was closer to approximating the damage difference than giving me how much power I’d need to add to keep them the same. What I actually should have pursued is something like:

  • (916 + x) * 1.5 = 916 * (1.5 + y)

with x being bonus power, and y being bonus crit damage (as a decimal! So 10% would be 0.10).

Solving this I find that, at 916 base power and 100% crit chance (again, a very unlikely/impossible scenario, but w/e) Adding 1% crit damage is equivalent to adding 6.1 power.


Damage formula for 100% crit chance:
(base power + bonus power) * weapon strength * skill coefficient / armor * (1.5 + bonus crit damage)
(p + x) * w * s / a * (1.5 + c) = D
We assume two scenarios, {x=0, c=c} and {x=x, c=0} where they both calculate to an identical value of D. Thus
(p + 0) * w * s / a * (1.5 + c) = (p + x) * w * s / a * (1.5 + 0)
Which simplifies down to
p * (1.5 + c) = (p + x) * 1.5
Substitute in 916 for base power and you’re set.

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Posted by: Kilger.5490

Kilger.5490

My solution, just go here, math done automatically

http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/necromancer/

Kilger – Human Ranger
alts: Fangyre (Necro), Hardrawk (Ele);
Jade Quarry

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Posted by: ShadowMaster.5708

ShadowMaster.5708

I hate math… Why did i press this thread?